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Burnley vs. Nottingham Forest

Turf Moor

Tuesday 24th September 2013

7:45 pm

COCUP 3 Target-To Fell the Forest!?

The Clarets take a break from their Championship campaign on Tuesday night but will face Championship opposition in the third round of the Capital One Cup with Nottingham Forest the visitors to Turf Moor.

The Pre-amble:

Burnley will be hoping to progress to the fourth round of the Capital One Cup at Turf Moor on Tuesday night but face a tough challenge with Championship rivals, Nottingham Forest the opponents. There is no doubt Burnley are in excellent form at the moment and the team have surprised many by their success in the Championship so far this season. They are currently in 2nd spot having made their best start in 12 years and they have now gone above our COCUP opponents on Tuesday night. Billy Davies` men are currently in sixth place only two points behind the Clarets although they seem to have gone off the boil recently. Nevertheless the scene is set for a very close game. In the Capital One Cup, Forest have had two relatively easy home games so far. They beat struggling League 2 side, Hartlepool 3-1 in the first round before despatching Millwall 2-1 in the second round. It is important for both clubs that they progress to the next round and hopefully get that lucrative game against one of the big Premier League clubs! The money aspect is probably more important to the Clarets though so let`s hope we can do the business and keep our winning streak going.

Burnley Team News:

Ross Wallace remains sidelined at least until Christmas after undergoing surgery a few weeks ago to correct a 'wear and tear` knee injury. The only other injury doubt is David Jones who was stretchered off in the Championship game away to Leeds on Saturday. It looked serious and there was a lot of concern at the time but it would appear he has just picked up a nasty gash to his ankle. The midfielder was fouled by substitute Dominic Poleon on the edge of his own box and needed lengthy treatment to a severe cut before being taken off the pitch on a stretcher.

"We think it`s just a cut. Cuts heal pretty quickly so it`s nothing too serious at this stage, said Sean Dyche.

"We`ll get it checked out further but he`s pretty settled with it so hopefully that`s all it is."

It is possible though they might decide to rest Jones with David Edgar probably standing-in again.

Player to watch: Scott Arfield

Many fans had doubts regarding the capabilities of Scott Arfield. Terriers` fans were not too complimentary about the winger and he certainly seemed to be Huddersfield reject after being released by the club. Dyche though is proving to be an astute manager and despite the one lethal mistake in the Rovers game recently Arfield has come back with a bang scoring in the last two Championship games whilst continuing to look impressive down the flank.

Nottingham Forest Team News:

The only injury concern for Forest is centre back, Kelvin Wilson. He suffered a back injury in Forest`s recent 2-2 home draw with Middlesbrough and then missed their last game away to Doncaster. The big question is whether, Billy Davies might be tempted to change a few players around in an effort to freshen up the squad like earlier rounds. The former Derby gaffer played an entirely different starting eleven to that which started the previous league game in the second round win over Millwall in August and it is thought likely that he will adopt the same strategy again. If he does some players on the periphery of the squad in the league campaign like Danny Collins, Guy Moussi, Simon Cox and Matt Derbyshire could make a start.

Player to watch: Andy Reid

Reid is currently Forest`s leading goalscorer with four goals so far this season. The 31 year old Republic of Ireland international midfielder arrived from Blackpool in July 2011 returning for a second spell with the club having started his professional career at the City Ground before moving on to Tottenham Hotspur in January 2005. He also played for Charlton and Sunderland and had a loan spell at Sheffield United.

Team & Tactics:

It is highly likely that Dyche will field his strongest side possible against such strong opposition. This is not the time for squad rotation or blooding young guns. We don`t have much depth and options in the squad in any case. If Jones is deemed fit enough to play, we could select the same eighteen for the fourth consecutive game but my feeling is Jones could be rested with Edgar once again taking over the central midfield role. Both Jones and Marney are sitting on four yellow cards too and the gaffer might not want to risk both central midfielders picking up a fifth yellow card and facing an automatic one match ban.

I will opt therefore for the following eighteen:

Heaton, Trippier, Shackell, Duff, Mee, Kightly, Marney, Edgar, Arfield, Ings, Vokes

Subs: Cisak, Lafferty, Long, Stock, Stanislas, Treacy, Noble

Ref Watch:

Lincolnshire referee, Darren Drysdale is in charge of this COCUP third round clash. The referee was pretty controversial in his last game involving the Clarets. The match was played at Turf Moor against Birmingham City last January and it was a bad day for the Clarets all round despite Ross Wallace scoring a penalty. We lost the game 2-1 and Dean Marney was also sent off. In his six games so far this season, two players have already been sent off and another 19 have seen yellow. His stats for the previous season were 6 reds and 105 yellows from 36 games.

Match Prediction:

The Clarets are on a high and in stunning form at the moment! Forest will certainly know they have been in a game but it could be close. I will go with a 2-1 win in normal time although I wouldn`t be surprised if this went into extra time and maybe even penalties.

Next Match:

Back to the Championship on Saturday 28th September for a home game against Charlton Athletic (Kick-Off: 3pm)




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Writer: turfmanphil Mail feedback, articles or suggestions

Date:Monday September 23 2013

Time: 6:28PM

Your Comments

With our threadbare squad injuries and suspensions were always going to be a problem. The more games we play the more the risk. Should SD decide to play a depleted team I can see why, although a good cup run is always pleasing for the fans and for the sorely needed income.
cornwallclaret
Dyche rotates afterall-Heaton, Trippier, Shackell, Long, Mee, Stanislas, Edgar, Marney, Treacy, Vokes, Ings Subs: Cisak, Lafferty, O'Neill, Stock, Kightly, Arfield, Noble
turfmanphil
Forest make 11 changes, some rotation that!! Line-up: De Vries, Jara, Collins, Lascelles, Harding, Gillett, Paterson, Moussi, Majewski, Derbyshire, Blackstock Subs Not Used: Al Rashidi, Cohen, Halford, Miller, Tudgay, Cox, Abdoun
turfmanphil
1-0 down Matty Derbyshire 24 mins! Forest been having upperhand to be honest
turfmanphil
Stock on for injured Marney 34 mins
turfmanphil
Fantastic! Ings 1-1 just before half-time and he was limping!!
turfmanphil
Very hard,physical game, lots of knocks! Half-time 1-1
turfmanphil
any tam managed by Billy Davis is gong to have a slight element of Nastiness. we will wi this on as the are on 2 yellows sending off imminent come on clarets
Albmaleaf claret
Sounds as though the ref is being a bit soft on some suspect tackles including a penalty shout for us. Big Sam to score the winner hopefully. UTC
WelshClaret
Ings back out, no changes for second half
turfmanphil
2-1 Ings flick header from Stanislas free-kick-68 minutes
turfmanphil
Job done 2-1 4th round and last 16 here we come!
turfmanphil
Another good performance. If we beat Charlton and then Doncaster on Tuesday we should be top as QPR dont play next midweek
boltonclaret
I can see us beating them Both BC. I ask the Question again Would you swap Ings for Austin ? Me and VR said no last time? But some thought Austin. I'll ask the Question again Ings or Austin? Would you Swap?
Grimsby Claret
Unless Ings this season becomes the first player to score 30 goals since Willie Irvine in 1966 of course I would swop Ings for Austin! I would also ask the question if we had both Austin and Ings playing upfront would we now have more goals than a Ings/Vokes partnership?
turfmanphil
I think Austin and Ings are totally different players with Ings having a lot more in his arsenal. I said at the start of the season that the Vokes/Ings partnership had great potential and that seems to be developing nicely. Ings himself commented on the official site how well they played together, but they also play for the team with as much defensive effort as up front. Yes, we all know how many goals Charlie scored but I think the current pairing is much more effective. Charlie leaving opened the door for all this , and I for one wouldn't swop to go backwards.
WelshClaret
Losing Austin was disappointment. The Ings, Vokes partnership has been a revelation that I am very happy with. My worry is the Jan window, if we are anywhere in with a chance of promotion I hope the Board have the guts to go for it and look to strengthen the squad rather than take the money.
cornwallclaret
We will never know but I think Ings is a better player anyway than last season and to be honest they rarely played 4-4-2 last season with Ings often playing out wider. I suspect that Ings/Austin would have scored more goals by end of season than a Ings/Vokes one! A 30 goal a season striker is a rarity and we should not take his departure lightly! The gaffer afterall wanted to keep him and the club hinted they did as well. We are buggered if they also sell Ings in the January window are we not?
turfmanphil
If we sell Ings in the January window tmp, send me the forms so that I can join your anti-board club. Can't see it happening myself, especially if we're up there or thereabout.
WelshClaret
Ings will not be sold in January. Phil ofcourse we did not want Austin to go and would be pleased if he was still here. But Ings wil be a better player, and will score more goals than Austin this season.
Grimsby Claret
Grimsby trust me if a Premier League club starts flashing enough of their dosh in January we will sell! There is nothing in our recent past or indeed 50 years that suggest we won’t! It will be the same old bollox of an excuse too! Take your pick from ‘We have always been a selling club” 'Great bit of business', 'If the player wants to go, we can't stand in his way' ' Now we can use the money to rebuild the squad (except they won’t) yadda, yadda. They will do that even if we are in the Top Six come Christmas and no matter how much it will jeopardise our promotion chances and no matter how much it will jeopardise our chances to get £100 million in the top flight next season. No ambition and they never will have until we get a change of attitude.
turfmanphil
Yes GC, you are probably right that Ings could potentially be a better player than Austin but by the time that is realised he will probably be playing for another club! Austin is a ready packaged 30 goal a season striker, or at least would have been for us! The two of them together would probably have been awesome for us this season if we were playing two up front.
turfmanphil
We're second in the championship, we've just beaten Notts Forest to get to the last 16, but to read stuff on this site you'd think we were doomed before we even started. Depressing stuff, I'm outta here.
WelshClaret
I think I might be outta of here, if you cant have an opinion without fighting yer corner whats the point? Someone else try being editor Im sick of it!! Go and look at the rival sites and tell me if you can find one thats always club supportive! Thats all some folk seem to want! What's depressing is folk holding the site to ransom. I'm off yadda yadda! Stop being bloody wimps!!lol
turfmanphil
Favourite Brian Clough quote which suits this site well: " It's only opinions, they make the world go round"
turfmanphil
course they'll sell Ings.
pmh200111
 

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