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Port Vale vs. Burnley

Vale Park

Tuesday 14th August 2012


Burnley to A-Vale Themselves!

Burnley visit Vale Park on Tuesday night to play League Two Port Vale in the first round of the Capital One Cup. Can they get the new season off to a good start?

The Pre-amble:

It is perhaps surprising that Burnley`s first game of the new 2012-13 season is actually a cup game but that`s the way the cookie crumbles. The Clarets are off to Vale Park on Tuesday night to play League 2 Port Vale in the first round of the newly sponsored Capital One Cup (formerly Carling Cup). Burnley have generally had a good pre-season with four wins out of five friendlies it is just a pity that they lost away 3-1 to League 2 Rochdale in the their final pre-season friendly last week. Hopefully that will not weigh too heavily on their mind as they prepare to face yet another League 2 club.

This will actually be the first time these two clubs have met in the league cup competition and indeed our only clash in 17 years was in the third round of the FA Cup, when Burnley won 4-2 at Turf Moor in January 2011.

Port Vale now managed by Micky Adams in his second spell with the club will be no pushovers and they will be keen to make an impression on home soil and claim a Championship scalp ahead of their new league campaign. The club have suffered significant financial hardship in recent times though and the club were issued with a winding up petition by HM Revenue and Customs on 29 February 2012 due to their inability to pay tax bills, creditors, or staff wages. The club entered administration in early March suffering a ten point deduction which left the club in mid-table dashing any hopes of promotion. The club remains without an owner for the start of the 2012-13 season.

Port Vale Team News:

Port Vale are likely to be without defender Gareth Owen. He limped off during the early stages of Saturday's friendly draw with Tranmere with a slight hamstring problem. John McCombe, Clayton McDonald and Joe Davis though could all be in contention to replace him. One summer signing who will not be involved is David Artell. The defender left Vale over the weekend after refusing to sign the new contract terms agreed with the club's administrators, the PFA and Football League. 17 Vale players though have signed the new deals including new summer signings Darren Murphy, Jennison Myrie-Williams, Ashley Vincent, Richard Duffy and Chris Neal who are all available to play tomorrow.

Player to watch: Richard Duffy

Clarets fans may well remember the centre back who spent some time on loan at Turf Moor. Duffy, now 26 is expected to make his full debut for the club against the Clarets on Tuesday night. It was Steve Cotterill who brought Duffy to Turf Moor on loan from Portsmouth at the beginning of the 2004-05 season initially for four weeks. Burnley fans were impressed by the former Swansea player`s excellent performances and the loan deal was extended into another month. Fans best memory of the player would probably be when he scored in the 2-1 win over Leeds United at Elland Road. Indeed he was certainly a versatile player whilst at Turf Moor and was even played a few times as a right winger. When his loan spell was over he returned to Fratton Park but spent most of his time out on loan again including four spells at Coventry and one with his original club, Swansea. In February 2009, the Welsh international joined Kenny Jackett's Millwall on a contract until the end of the season before being released at the end of that season. Duffy then signed for newly promoted League One side Exeter City in July2009 before agreeing a two year contract with Port Vale in July 2012 thus rejoining his former boss at Coventry, Micky Adams.

Burnley Team News:

Eddie Howe has a number of selection headaches ahead of the game with four of his players on international duty and another two injured. Keith Treacy was selected for the Republic of Ireland squad but is actually also suffering from a slight groin injury that will keep him sidelined. Left back, Danny Lafferty and striker Martin Paterson are both in the Northern Ireland squad and new signing Sam Vokes has been called up by Wales. With both Pato and Vokes unavailable, our striking department has been severely weakened especially following the grim news that Danny Ings will be sidelined for three-six months after suffering a torn cartilage in the game at Spotland last week. Charlie Austin too missed training on Monday after returning to the south west on Saturday for his partner to give birth so he could also miss out whilst on paternal leave. There is some talk that Junior Stanislas could now be used as an emergency striker.

Howe might be tempted if not forced to blood some of his young guns in the cup games at these early stages against lower league opposition but one player who won`t feature against Port Vale is rising star, Cameron Howieson. He has had a hectic summer playing for New Zealand and being involved in their Olympic football campaign during London 2012. Eddie Howe is conscious that the player now needs a rest and has asked his young gun to not report back to Burnley until September. Another player out injured is midfielder Marvin Bartley (ankle)but with new signing Brian Stock now on board we can probably expect to see the former Doncaster Rovers midfielder make his debut for the club against Port Vale.

Player to watch: Brian Stock

All eyes will be on our new latest signing. The 30 year old midfielder only arrived from Doncaster Rovers on Saturday after penning a two-year deal for an undisclosed fee. Clarets fans will be keen to see how well he slots into the team ahead of the Championship campaign which starts on Saturday.

Team & Tactics:

With so many absentees due to international duty and injury, it is difficult to predict what sort of team Eddie Howe will put out on Tuesday night. Many of those players in their first full professional season and those on the periphery of the first team might get a chance to shine. The biggest headache is certainly in attack with only Alex MacDonald seemingly available to play up front unless Charlie Austin returns from paternity leave. Eddie Howe has also been experimenting with many strange formations and tactics in the pre-season friendlies including diamonds so again it is difficult to know exactly what the starting eleven will look like.

We can only take our clues from some of the recent starting elevens and look at those players that have featured the most in the pre-season games. Jason Shackell our new club captain looks likely to start in the back four probably playing alongside either Duff or Edgar in the centre of defence. With Lafferty on international duty, the left back position is likely to be filled by on-loan Reading defender, Joseph Mills although Ben Mee could also play there. Kieran Trippier would be the obvious choice at right back unless Howe feels Luke O`Neill needs more experience at this sort of level. The midfield almost picks itself but again there are numerous options now that Brian Stock has joined the club. Chris McCann could well take a back seat on the substitute`s bench allowing Stock to make his first start and debut for the club. With our attack so weakened and rumours that Stanislas could be used as an emergency striker, our wingers look likely to be Wallace and Porter. It looks like we will have no option but to have just the one striker up front unless Howe drafts in Alex MacDonald, who has actually been playing recently in midfield.

Ref Watch:

The referee will be Andy Haines from Tyne & Wear. Last season he was quite modest with his card showing. Just six players saw red with 104 picking up a yellow card from 35 games.

Match Prediction:

It is important we get off to a winning start in the new season campaign especially against a lower league side. We simply cannot afford any banana skills with the all important high-profile Championship opener against Bolton at Turf Moor coming up four days later. It would be good if confidence was high going into the clash against Owen Coyle`s mob and to be honest we should have enough depth of quality in the squad to brush aside Port Vale and march into the next round despite the missing players on international duty and our injuries. 3-1 Clarets sounds an appropriate result!

Next Match::

The Championship campaign gets off to a blistering start with none other than Owen Coyle`s relegated Bolton the visitors to Turf Moor on Saturday 18th August (Kick-Off-3pm)

The Journalist

Writer: turfmanphil Mail feedback, articles or suggestions

Date:Monday August 13 2012

Time: 6:42PM

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I will make the best guess for a starting eleven but with so many options it could be a million miles away from Howe’s thinking. The following 4-4-2 formation though could be too strong for Port Vale despite the potential problems up front: Grant, Trippier, Shackell, Edgar (or Duff), Mills, Wallace, Stock, Marney, Porter, MacDonald, Stanislas Subs: Jensen, O’Neill, Mee, Duff (or Edgar), McCann, Hewitt plus one other young gun
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13/08/2012 18:52:00
That team should have no problems and be to strong for Vale.
Grimsby Claret
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13/08/2012 18:57:00
Hope Eddie has got plenty of paracetamol! Striker shortage thankfully temporary (the unfortunate Ings aside) so a chance for others to step in before the real action starts on 18th August. Narrow win for The Clarets.
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13/08/2012 19:03:00
You just wonder if Ben Mee is going to see much action this season. With Lafferty and Mills now fighting over left back spot, Mee will have to fight for his preferred centre back position with Edgar and Duff. I actually think though a Shackell/Mee centre back pairing could be the best option. Maybe Edgar can be converted into a defensive midfielder. Duff might be the one to lose out at this rate
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13/08/2012 19:26:00
Edgar was (apparently) woeful in that position against Rochdale, though, TMP...
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13/08/2012 22:23:00
He was not too brilliant in that spot against Palace last year either. But, concerning the Spotland game, he is a couple of weeks behind everyone else in terms of fitness.
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14/08/2012 07:22:00
So often I read in Eddie we trust. Tonight is a HUGE game, it will dictate the mood post Saturday, out of the cup and beaten by notloB and its all doom. Questions would then arise as to the quality of the pre season build up, should we have postponed the cup match (which we could have done but Ediie has opted not to do so). However win both games and Eddie is a genius.......I hope its the genius, critical word is HOPE.
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14/08/2012 08:41:00
Could you remind me, VR, of how the LPTPL season began?
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14/08/2012 12:12:00
Got hammered by Sheffield (was there), got hammered at home by Ipswich.......got a draw 0 0 against Palace......... and the significance is? IF ?
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14/08/2012 12:59:00
I guess I am just trying to downplay the reasons for us all becoming Manic Panickers if we should happen to lose a couple of games this week... or of becoming Happy Clappers if we win 'em. As they say in baseball, 'it's a long season'. Meanwhile, *oyley has probably been lookng at your stats VR, and decided that his best chance of managing a NobLot win would be for him to jump out of a plane.
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14/08/2012 16:37:00
New signing Stock makes his début for the Clarets, Austin up front is our only recognised striker with support from Wallace. Burnley: Grant, Trippier, Mills, Shackell, Edgar, Stock, Marney, McCann, Wallace, Austin, Stanislas. Subs: Duff, O'Neill, MacDonald, Long, Hewitt, Mee, Jensen. Port Vale: Neal, Yates, McCombe, Loft, Dodds, Myrie-Williams, Vincent, Pope, Shuker, Davis, Morsy. Subs: Johnson, Williamson, Murphy, Lloyd, Burge, Duffy, McDonald.
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14/08/2012 19:14:00
8 minutes gone Port Vale take the lead drat!!! Port Vale 1-0 Burnley.
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14/08/2012 19:56:00
1 nil to Vale.......corner and poor defence however McCann equalises lol
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14/08/2012 19:56:00
McCann equalises 10 minutes phew!! Port Vale 1-1 Burnley.
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14/08/2012 19:57:00
GOAL!!! Austin!!! Port Vale 1-2 Burnley 30 minutes gone :)
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14/08/2012 20:15:00
GOAL!!! Dean Marney!!! Port Vale 1-3 Burnley 41 minutes...get in
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14/08/2012 20:28:00
I see VR only comes on here, 8c8, when there's something to moan about! :)
Couch Potato
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14/08/2012 20:32:00
Half-time: Port Vale 1-2 Burnley...an early scare in the first ten minutes with Port Vale scoring but Burnley respond with 3 goals good stuff.
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14/08/2012 20:36:00
Port Vale 1-3 Burnley...enable my front page edit tmp :)
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14/08/2012 20:37:00
55 minutes gone still Port Vale 1-3 Burnley.
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14/08/2012 21:01:00
Duff on for Stock 5 minutes to go.
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14/08/2012 21:31:00
Full-time: Port Vale 1-3 Burnley....job done and in the hat for the next round, bring on Bolton :)
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14/08/2012 21:41:00
We were under the cosh in the second half, should give Grant some confidence going into Saturdays game, when most of us will be present.
Grimsby Claret
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14/08/2012 22:20:00
Good prediction TMP - Keep em up !! Had it on the radio and it sounded like Vale did well in the second half and put us under a bit. I thought EH would have made substitions earlier; both McCann and Trippier appear to have received knocks. I could see it being the same team Saturday to be honest, sounds like McCann and Marney got forward a lot to support the attack; which is what will make Stock so important. Boden described him as "quietly efficient".
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14/08/2012 22:58:00
I dont get it.Im the only one supposed to be able to post on this site,how did you all manage it?
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