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Burnley vs. Derby County

Turf Moor

Saturday 21st January 2012


Burnley and No Butts from Rams

Burnley play Derby County at Turf Moor this Saturday hoping to continue their promotion challenge with the club now just three points off the play-offs positions.

The Pre-amble:

The Clarets will be hoping to build on their impressive run of form recently after seven wins now in nine games. They come into their next game at home to Derby County on Saturday knowing that another three points could see them in the top six. Burnley will also be buoyed up by their impressive performance away to high-flying Middlesbrough at the Riverside last Saturday. Boro were beaten comprehensively 2-0 on their home soil in a game which was Burnley`s best performance of the season. The defeat of Boro, only their second all season at home, saw the Clarets in 10th spot just three points behind sixth-placed club, Hull City.

Derby County too though are also in good form and they are currently in 8th spot with just one more point than the Clarets having played the same number of games. This is certainly a vital six-pointer then for both clubs. It won`t be easy though against the Rams who have won five of their last six Championship games and lost just one. Nigel Clough`s men though are not that impressive away from home having lost four of their last six league games. They have picked up just four points in six games on the road although that did include a 1-0 win in their last away game against Hull City.

Burnley Team News:

Both Martin Paterson and Junior Stanislas face scans this week to evaluate the extent of their hamstring injuries. Both were injured in the game last week at the Riverside and both could now face up to six weeks being sidelined.

Sam Vokes also completed his loan spell on Sunday and is now thought to be back at Molineux. Eddie Howe is understood to be in touch with Wolves gaffer, Mick McCarthy about a possible loan extension but it remains to be seen if anything can be resolved in time for the Derby clash.

Zavon Hines could well be expected to step up to the plate and provide striker cover on the bench along with possibly Alex MacDonald. Danny Ings is expected to play for the Reserves this week but is still thought to be some way away from making his first team debut due to lack of experience at this level. He has yet to make his debut for the Clarets having been sidelined for most of the season injuring his cartilage just a few days after signing from Bournemouth last August.

With Stanislas out injured Treacy could be set for a recall on the wing.

Player to watch: Ben Mee

It has been a good week for Mee. He was regarded the best of our very impressive back four in our last game away to Boro on Saturday. Mee, who had been on a season-long loan, then followed that up by signing a permanent three-and-a-half deal with Burnley until the summer of 2015 after agreeing to leave Manchester City. Hopefully Mee will be able to help keep Robinson & Co at bay this Saturday!

Derby County Team News:

19 year old central defender, Mark O`Brien is out for the rest of the season after damaging his anterior cruciate ligaments in training last month.

Striker, Steven Davies though has been given clearance to play in competitive games after being sidelined since Mid October with a skull fracture. The injury required surgery but he has been back in training since November waiting for medical clearance to play. He will however be required to wear protective headwear and it is unlikely he will go straight back into the first team despite still being the Rams second-highest goal scorer so far this season.

Sunderland`s 20 year old striker, Ryan Noble is also expected to join Derby County in a one-month loan deal this week and could feature against the Clarets.

Player to watch: Theo Robinson

Robinson, who will be 22 this Sunday, is the Rams top goal-scorer this season with 8 goals, six of them scored in the Championship. The striker joined on a permanent deal from Millwall in the summer following a three-month loan spell.

Team & Tactics:

Our potential line-up will certainly be an interesting one to debate with Martin Paterson and Junior Stanislas now both sidelined with hamstring injuries. Sam Vokes loan spell is also now at an end, so he will not be an option in attack unless Eddie Howe can negotiate an extension with Mick McCarthy this week.

Unless there are any transfer developments during the week, I suspect the line up will look something like this:

Grant, Trippier, Duff, Edgar, Mee, Wallace, Marney, McCann, Treacy, Rodriguez, Austin.

Subs: Jensen, Easton, Bartley, Hines, MacDonald

We could play the normal 4-4-2 or possibly 4-4-1-1 again this time with Austin up front with Jay Rod just behind him .

Ref Watch:

Premier League Gloucestershire referee Lee Probert is in charge of this one. His last game involving the Clarets was in January 2010 when he refereed our top flight game against Manchester United at Old Trafford. His card count for this season from 21 games so far comes to four reds and 70 yellows.

Match Prediction:

If we play like we did against Boro, it could well be another three points but we know what this Championship can throw up and you can`t take anything for granted. The Rams will be no pushovers but if we can win this one, we might well be in the play-offs spots come the final whistle. The fact we will be without Pato and Stanisalas is a worry but I still think we can beat them so I will go with a 2-1 victory for the Clarets.

Next Match:

We will not be in action again after this game until Tuesday 31st January when we travel to the City ground to play Nottingham Forest (Kick-Off 7:45pm). Next weekend is FA Cup time and of course we are no longer in the competition.

The Journalist

Writer: turfmanphil Mail feedback, articles or suggestions

Date:Wednesday January 18 2012

Time: 10:38AM

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Could be an interesting team selection on Saturday! What do you predict? Any surprises?
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18/01/2012 10:40:00
Grant has to start due to clean sheet etc, back four is a given, Trips, Edgar, Duff and Mee. McCann and Marney also a given, JayRod and Austin a given, leaves two places up for grabs, Wallace must get one surely so that just leaves one place. Treacy, Hines or Bartley. I would start Hines and give him at least 60 minutes. The problem is not all players are suited to being a super sub, hence why I would be tempted to start Hines.
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18/01/2012 18:08:00
Same team as you Vino but i would play Wallace and Bartley, think this will be a tight game and one goal could win it.
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18/01/2012 18:42:00
I hope with Paterson out and Vokes sent back to Wolves will give Hines a chance to shine. With him being a natural left footer playing him down in a LAM LF role will really make most of his agility and speed. Or even LM swapping flanks with Wallace, apparently he has been looking very sharp in training and he must want to make a name for himself.
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18/01/2012 21:26:00
Touching distance of the promised land ! we never seem to get into this top six and we havnt for ages .... can we get amongst them, an easy opportunity ... will we exploit it ?
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18/01/2012 22:21:00
Latest update on Pato/Junior injuries following scan:Burnley have welcomed a positive update on Martin Paterson's hamstring problem, but are less optimistic regarding Junior Stanislas. Both men have undergone scans, and it is believed that Paterson could be sidelined for less than a month. Clarets winger Stanislas, however, faces up to eight weeks out with a similar injury
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19/01/2012 07:21:00
Some Rams team news-NATHAN Tyson has suffered a minor setback with his groin injury and will miss Derby County's game at Burnley on Saturday. Tyson started the back-to-back home victories over Leeds United and West Ham United last month but has sat out the last three matches. "The scar tissue Nathan has from some of the procedures he has undergone for his groin injury is causing him a little bit of a problem," said manager Nigel Clough. "It's not a long-term thing, but he is not quite comfortable enough to get out there on the pitch. "Every chance he gets, he is out there on the pitch. He hadn't done much training before the Leeds game and yet five days later he was out there again to face West Ham. "We hope this is just a small setback." Tyson has managed only two starts and two appearances as a substitute since he joined Derby in the summer.
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19/01/2012 10:01:00
Not sure about Hines starting but most of you feel he should, so does young Grimsby. But has he had enough championship games behind him ? surely he is short of match practice. Ok he played well for the reserves and scored but he did not make the starting line up did he. I think its a risk to start him.
Grimsby Claret
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19/01/2012 17:36:00
For me Treacy deserves the chance. He has scored a couple this season, bettered his fitness and at times puts in some very good performances.
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19/01/2012 18:41:00
I have some PNE mates and they said from the day we got Treacy don't start him and Wallace as it never works when they both start. It has stuck with me since and I have to say I think they maybe right but for the life of me I don't know why they appear right.
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19/01/2012 19:50:00
You can cover one who doesn't show how he knows how to exercise his responsibilities. Covering two is tough.
Couch Potato
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19/01/2012 20:37:00
Would be a good time to get our second double of the season after Hull! I think the doubts over Hines and Treacy sums up our predicament. not enough depth of quality in the squad! Sadly it looks like we won't be adding to it in the Jan window either
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20/01/2012 07:36:00
It's interesting to note, TMP, how doubts that various posters on here have had about other players have gradually been replaced by support and appreciation. Maybe that same pattern will be repeated with various of our existing second string?
Couch Potato
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20/01/2012 12:37:00
Doubts are cyclical, if our good results continue, there will not be any doubts! Go on a losing streak again,the doubts will return. Treacy and Hines have yet to prove themselves as do many others on the periphery. Just three points off the play-offs do we have time to wait and see if they can deliver? I think it is risky. With our smallish squad we are going to be relying on them more and more. If I fork out 400 for a season ticket, I want the club to optimise their chances when they can for THAT season not one in the future. All we have done so far is fork out money on players we would still have had to the end of this season and yet already have problems in terms of defensive cover and arguably winger/striker cover [Edited by turfmanphil]
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20/01/2012 13:11:00
Burnley have signed 22 year old Millwall striker, Josh McQuoid on a 93-day loan deal and the Northern Ireland international is immediately available to play in the game against Derby County at Turf Moor this Saturday. Will he go straight into team or be on bench? Hines must be gutted
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20/01/2012 15:19:00
tmp have a word with yourself......all we have done is fork out money on players we would still have had to the end of the season".........Jack Cork should have signed him in January waited till the end of the season and look what happened. You are having a grump there my friend...lol
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20/01/2012 18:20:00
Looks an obvious signing as cover for Pato. So has EH given up on Vokes and does he think Hines may not be good enough yet so has given himself another option? Seems reasonable to me. As a doubter becoming a cautious optimist because I think EH is delivering in very difficult managerial circumstances.
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21/01/2012 07:57:00
Having spent two days this week walking the coast path either side of Newquay, one day in watery sun, the other in much waterier mist, I can say that Cornwall agreed with me, and I therefore agree with Cornwall. But I defend tmp's right to have a grump if he wants one on VB - the site of free grumping! May the happy days last!
Couch Potato
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21/01/2012 08:51:00
I too defend the right for tmp to have a grump, its not as if I never have had a grump! lol p.s. I defend my right to tell tmp he is having a grump too!
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21/01/2012 09:02:00
Line-ups: Burnley: Grant, Trippier, Mee, Duff, Edgar, McCann, Marney, Wallace, Rodriguez, Austin, Treacy. Subs: Bartley, Hines, Easton, McQuoid, Jensen. Derby: Fielding, Brayford, Roberts, Barker, Shackell, Bryson, Green, Bailey, Robinson, Ward, Ball. Subs: Buxton, Hendrick, Davies, Noble, Legzdins.
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21/01/2012 15:12:00
Half-time: Burnley 0-0 Derby...not many chances for the Clarets on a blustery day.
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21/01/2012 15:48:00
Full-time: Burnley 0-0 Derby....honours even.
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21/01/2012 16:52:00
We are down to 12th would you believe it, but still only 3 points off play offs.
Grimsby Claret
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21/01/2012 17:11:00
Still in there, which can't be bad. Defence does not seem to be making those costly silly mistakes. How did McQuoid perform?
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21/01/2012 17:38:00
McQuoid had a few nice touches from what I heard on Clarets Player although he was played out wide mid-field and not upfront.
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21/01/2012 18:19:00
Burnley nil, Derby nil, comments on the game nil?
Couch Potato
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22/01/2012 08:15:00
Loads of comments on the score on the doors Couch. Some of them may question my sanity as to why I went yesterday! Treacy what was that all about? Austin and Jay just one goal from either of them would have been enough. Hines behind McQuoid in pecking order already, wtf is that all about. Thats a few comments!
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22/01/2012 08:53:00
I would be having a grump, if I was moaning about the actual signings themselves, which I am not. The point I am making is that these signings have not inceased the depth of quality in our squad for THIS season! Trips and Mee would already have been here till season end and McQuiod is a simple replacement for Vokes. So in fact we are still 2 down with Pato/Stanislas injured and have NOT increased our chances of promotion in the transfer window so far which is pretty disappointing considering we are within sniffing distance of the play-offs.
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22/01/2012 09:39:00

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