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Hull City vs. Burnley

KC Stadium

Saturday 26th November 2011


Hullabaloo and Hulluva Mess If Burnley Lose at KC!

The Clarets having lost four consecutive league games will be hoping to stop the rot against Hull City at the KC Stadium on Saturday.

The Pre-amble:

Burnley are precariously placed fourth from bottom in the Championship at the moment just two points off the drop zone. They have suffered four league defeats in succession and will be desperate to return to winning ways. The Clarets have a difficult task ahead of them on Saturday travelling to 6th placed Hull City and they know that another defeat could mean they will be in the bottom three over the weekend if resurgent third-from-bottom club Bristol City also manage to beat league leaders, Southampton at Ashton Gate.

The psychological effects of being in the relegation zone on the back of five consecutive defeats just doesn`t bare thinking about and that would certainly put Eddie Howe under more pressure to rectify the problems before it`s too late, especially in defence. The Clarets have not lost five on the bounce since January 2009.

Hull on the other hand are riding high, despite having recently lost their manager, Nigel Pearson following his departure to become gaffer at Leicester City again. Caretaker manager, Nick Barmby takes charge of his first home match this Saturday having got off to a winning start following Hull`s 2-0 away win at Derby on Saturday. The win moved Hull into the play-offs positions and they currently sit in 6th spot with 27 points from 16 games.

That is incredibly 9 points clear of the Clarets and they still have a game in hand! Hull City of course, were relegated along with Burnley from the Premier League three seasons ago with many saying they would have a fraught future in light of their financial problems. So yet again, here we have a club doing better than Burnley, who tightly or wrongly decided to adopt a frugal 'can`t live beyond our means` approach.

The Tigers though do have some vulnerability if only the Clarets could exploit it on Saturday. The KC Stadium has been kind to the Clarets for the past few seasons and Burnley are also chasing their fifth successive win over Hull who have not managed to defeat the Clarets since March 2008 when the Tigers enjoyed a 2-0 home win. Since that time, the Clarets have scored a total of 11 goals in the last four victories. Hull`s home form this season was impressive until they lost 2-0 to West Ham at the KC Stadium in Pearson`s last game in charge. Before that they had won four on the bounce!

There is one interesting statistic though that might give our defence some comfort. Hull have only managed seven goals at home all season, the second worst in the Championship with only bottom club, Doncaster Rovers holding this dubious record to date with just five.

Hull City Team News:

Defender and skipper, Andy Dawson could be back for his first game since September following a knee injury but the Tigers will be without the suspended striker, Aaron McLean. Mclean received his fifth booking of the season in last week's win at Derby and serves an automatic one-game ban.

Striker, Martyn Waghorn (hamstring), winger Martin Pusic (hip) and midfielders Seyi Olofinjana and Richard Garcia (both knee) remain on the injured list. With a number of injuries to their strike force, former Burnley loanee, Dele Adebola looks set to play against his former club.

Player to watch: Matty Fryatt

Fryatt is Hull City`s leading goal scorer this season with five goals so far in the Championship. The 25 year old striker joined Hull City from Leicester in January this year in a £1.2 million deal. He got off to a slow start with the Tigers but now seems to have found some form scoring four goals in the last seven games!

Burnley Team News:

Dean Marney seemed to shake off an early knock after coming on from the bench at St Andrews on Tuesday night. Hopefully, he has not suffered any after effects and will available for Saturday.

All the other injured players are making steady progress but they will not be available for selection on Saturday. Brian Jensen is back in training and is on the road to recovery following his groin injury. Charlie Austin`s shoulder dislocation is not as bad as first feared and he faces a scan today (Friday) which should give some indication on how long he could be sidelined. Martin Paterson is close to making a return after suffering a recurrence of the thigh injury in our first game of the season. The club are hoping to give him some match practice in behind-the-scenes and reserves games but he could return to the first team before Christmas. Danny Ings too is making good progress in recovering from his cartilage injury and he could be available to make his debut for the Clarets in January.

Player to watch: Michael Duff

Duff was our best defender by some distance against Birmingham in midweek being a candidate for Man of the Match. He has looked solid since his return from injury and can at times be commanding in the back four and chivvy the rest into action. We certainly need our defence to improve though and all eyes will be on Duff again on Saturday. Duff may not be the most technically brilliant defender but he is our most experienced. Let`s hope he can pass on that experience and get the rest of the back four to play at a high standard with some consistency.

Team & Tactics:

The loan window closed on Thursday and anybody expecting some new faces on show for the Clarets on Saturday will have been disappointed. No new signings were made and indeed our squad was reduced by one after Wes Fletcher departed for Crewe on a loan until the 15th January.

The game comes too soon for any of our longer term-injured and I suspect Eddie Howe will be tempted to select a similar sixteen to the one that lost at St Andrews in midweek. There is no reason either to believe he will change the 4-4-2 formation. I would make changes if I am honest to the back four but I doubt if Howe will make an. My preferred back four would be Trippier, Duff, Amougou and Mee with Mee at left back. I would also make Duff captain but I can`t see that happening even though he did take up the armband after McCann was replaced for tactical reasons against Brum.

Mee is not even making the sixteen these days and Howe seems obstinate and determined not to give Amougou any starts. We can expect the following then assuming Marney has not suffered any after effects from the niggling injury that seemed to affect him after coming on from the bench against Brum.

Grant, Trippier, Duff, Edgar, Easton, Wallace, McCann, Bartley, Treacy, Rodriguez, Vokes

Subs: Stewart, Amougou (or Mee), Marney, Stanislas, Hines

Ref Watch:

Premier League referee, Mike Jones from Chester is in charge of this clash. Jones' last Burnley game was our 0-0 draw against QPR at Turf Moor in January last season. A remarkable seven yellow cards were shown that day! This season, he has also been quite prolific handing out 3 red and 48 yellow cards in his 10 games in charge so far (more than 5 cards/match)

Match Prediction:

A defeat simply can not be contemplated and yet a win seems pretty remote based on current form. Hull are fighting for a play-offs spot and we might struggle to get something at the KC, despite this ground being kind to us over the recent past. I will go with a 1-1 draw; at least that will ensure we don`t drop into the bottom three no matter what Bristol City achieve at home against Southampton on Saturday (unless they beat the Saints 8-0 and go above us on goal difference!)

Next Match:

The busy November schedule continues with a home game against Ipswich Town on the night of Tuesday 29th November (Kick-Off-7:45pm)

The Journalist

Writer: turfmanphil Mail feedback, articles or suggestions

Date:Friday November 25 2011

Time: 4:42PM

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Come on you Clarets! Stop the rot and surprise a few! Please,PLEASEEEEEEEEEEEE!! Boo hoo
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25/11/2011 16:44:00
The weather forcast is gale force winds 60mph, wonder if their will be any wind assisted goals?
Grimsby Claret
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25/11/2011 16:55:00
There will be plenty of wind coming from the Burnley end (ends?)if we start playing like plonkers again! Squeaky bum time
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25/11/2011 17:35:00
To be honest I canít see us getting anything out of this game, needs a change in the system but donít see Howe doing it. I would drop a winger and may be go one up front Jrod on his own, a must is to get more bodies in the midfield, which in turn might give the defence a chance. Cannot see any positives just doom and gloom sorry chaps.
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25/11/2011 17:51:00
surprised no loan movement into burnley as talk down here was that 'judas' would try for our flying wing wizzard marc pugh. luckily we now have a russian billionaire as joint owner & don't actually need to sell anyone, in fact we are buying very, very well. my hope is that 'judas' & his sidekick 'permatan' never return to afc bournemouth if (when?) they get booted out of your club.
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25/11/2011 18:42:00
completly run out of words clarets ! so depressed with whole thing
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25/11/2011 21:50:00
How we need to a win to boast the whole club. Based on what's gone before I just can't see it happening.
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25/11/2011 23:31:00
Very good redray but what has that got to do with Burnley playing Hull on Saturday?
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26/11/2011 11:12:00
Come on boys - Will be setting off shortly!
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26/11/2011 11:32:00
We are trying out a new facility today based on Cover-It-Live and will be following today's game at Hull. Come & try it out by going to our 'Matchday Live & Chatroom' page. Click menu and select from drop down or cut&paste this link-http://www.burnley.vitalfootball.co.uk/site.asp?cat=1799
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26/11/2011 12:53:00
Referee, Mike Jones has had to withdraw from this afternoon's game at Hull due to illness. He is replaced by Premier League referee, Anthony Taylor from Wythenshawe. Remember him? Saints game this season? Oh No
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26/11/2011 13:36:00
All change today, Mee at left back,Easton dropped to bench. 5 man midfield with Stanislas back. Rodriguez lone striker up front. Team: Grant, Trippier, Duff, Edgar, Mee, Wallace, McCann, Bartley, Stanislas, Treacy, Rodriguez Subs: Stewart, Amougou, Easton, Hines, Vokes [Edited by turfmanphil]
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26/11/2011 14:20:00
Hull: Gulacsi, Rosenior, McKenna, Chester, Hobbs, Stewart, Evans, Koren, Fryatt, Brady, Dudgeon. Subs: Dawson, Cairney, McShane, Adebola, Basso
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26/11/2011 14:26:00
Awful defence again, Trippier at fault lets in Fryatt to put Hull up after just 11 minutes after a bright start too by Clarets! Demoralising stuff
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26/11/2011 15:24:00
1-0 at half-time to Hull! One word sums the game up DIRE!! Same old,same old..defence no good, no consistency over 90 mins
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26/11/2011 15:52:00
Anybody wishing to join in....we are in here. http://www.burnley.vitalfootball.co.uk/site.asp?cat=1799
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26/11/2011 16:00:00
Vokes on for Stanislas for start of second half
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26/11/2011 16:05:00
Hopeless 2-0 down, Robins beating Saints! We are in bottom three and Wallace picks up 5th yellow so will miss Ipswich
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26/11/2011 16:15:00
sorry turfmanphil, i posted on the loan story but it seems to have appeared on your match preview instead. still can't believe you didn't get a defender in before deadline. very odd indeed considering even i can see that is where your problems lay. ours is getting the ball in the net & oldham are defending well here today.
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26/11/2011 16:29:00
Fair enough redray! Howe will have to do something quickly or the pressure for him to go will only increase although the Board are not exactly dealing him the best hand.
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26/11/2011 16:32:00
Flaming hell, 2-2 Edgar a brace
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26/11/2011 16:41:00
It just gets better and better 3-2 Clarets! Incredible..Jay Rod. 3 goals in 15 minutes
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26/11/2011 16:53:00
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26/11/2011 16:56:00
3-2 Win..totally speechless!!
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26/11/2011 16:56:00
Boy we needed that with Robins beatng Saints 2-0!!
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26/11/2011 16:59:00
I predicted 3-2 with 3 late goals... just not that way round. Sometimes it's nice just to say 'I was wrong'! The psychological impact could be really, really important, especially with Ipswich losing 3-2 after being ahead. (Should Derby lose to WHU in the late KO, my little side 'bet' with TMP will be back to being interesting.)
Couch Potato
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26/11/2011 17:14:00
Absolutely incredible. Had we lost that game we would be sitting 22nd right now, but because of that emphatic finish we find ourselves in 16th. It just shows you what a difference 15 minutes of football can make. We all know that we have some problems at this club, and defensively we seem to be shocking at the moment, but the passion and desire that we have at this club is unbelievable. Not one player gave up today, and they had every reason to. 2-0 down with 15 minutes to go, on a poor run of form and getting stick from the fans. But not one player stopped believing, and you just cant buy attitudes like that. Fans will continue to criticise Eddie for not sorting out the defence, but the will to win mentality and never give up attitude that he has implimented to the players at this club is phenomenal. We have seen it time and time again under Eddie Howe, this season against Watford and Coventry and numerous times last season. Thats what I love about being a Burnley fan, its not over until the end.
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26/11/2011 17:21:00
Incredible result. It just shows what can be done if you never give up fighting, well done the lads. Keep that attitude, it is needed to get us safe and then, who knows?
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26/11/2011 17:31:00
We were 2-0 down when I left work, and then I saw the result at 5.30pm. Think you're spot on with the 'psychological impact' CP, coming back from 2-0 down could have a really beneficial effect on confidence and character, and maybe, just maybe, we could start to see some consistency creeping in from now on. Could this be the Turning Point? There I go again with my optimism . . . . . . . . somebody stop me . . . . . . .
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26/11/2011 18:42:00
Avoiding relegation and/or finishing midtable will not be success in my eyes no matter how much the club will try and make it out to be. Good win today though
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26/11/2011 19:16:00
Just got back from seeing one of the greatest Burnley come backs in my 44 years of following Burnley at 2-0 we were down and out and the Hull fans were mocking the Burnley fans unmercifully but by how the tde turned what Joy at the final whistle felt so pleased for all the Burnley fans, So very pleased i was there. I think this point could be a turning point for us lets hope so.
Grimsby Claret
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26/11/2011 19:21:00
We have got the points thank goodness. The defence still is not up to it and we have to wait till January to try and strengthen.
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26/11/2011 19:33:00
8 points between being in the R zone and the play offs. Just goes to show that in this league, any team who can be consistent will go up. Well done the Clarets, showed some bollox today by the sounds. Kilby out.
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26/11/2011 20:44:00
The potential in this side is hard to grasp but the trouble is it needs to be unlocked (at some time during each game) and I don't think that anyone has the key on a regular basis. To make matters worse what can be turned on can also be turned off. My thoughts after this one were hard to put into words (the Hull fans certainly ran out of words) but "Jekyll and Hyde" springs to mind.
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26/11/2011 22:00:00
More thoughts. I'd say they started both 1st and 2nd half well. When nothing materialised (for us) they sort of waited (Micawber like) for something to turn up. Then with Hull getting careless things began to turn up and there was no stopping them. We keep talking signings to fix onfield problems (back line) I'm starting to wonder about the type of onfield character(s) that can change the mood regardless of where they are playing. (do we need a Joker or two?)
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26/11/2011 23:30:00
Think you've got it covered Andy. We've all seen the potential, and if they can turn that on consistently, anything is possible, and yes , I'm talking promotion here. But we've all seen the dismal performances as well , so I can't argue with the relegation argument simply because of these performances. 'Jekyll and Hyde' has been mentioned in previous threads, and it fits the bill so far without a doubt. But as chief optimist on here, I still believe in Eddie, and I agree with him that this side is not too far away from stunning us all. Keep the faith , UTC.
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27/11/2011 01:11:00
Great result and determined last fifteen mins, HOWEVER we were bloody awful for the first 75mins ! please remember this, we got lucky ( about time we had some as well) but this doesn't take away from the fact that Tracy and Stanislas didn't even show up until the last 15 mins, we have much work to do my fellow clarets but for now I will take the result !
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27/11/2011 10:05:00
Yes, we need a team that can function consistently for the full 90 minutes. Too slow to get going sometimes before conceding sloppy goals, then taking the eye off the ball in the last few minutes and conceding late on! Consistency and confidence is all we need. Just have to hope the luck we had against Hull can kickstart our season and we can now plough on and move upwards
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27/11/2011 13:39:00

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