Burnley | Clarets Can`t Afford to Be Donkeys in Derby Clash
UK time is: 01:32:43
Vital Login
Social Login

Choose your club

Other Sites

Network Navigation

Vital Partners

'If It's Football, It's Vital'

Burnley vs. Derby County

Turf Moor

Saturday 27th November 2010


On Sky

Clarets Can`t Afford to Be Donkeys in Derby Clash

The Clarets badly need a convincing win at home to restore confidence and keep some of the pressure off Brian Laws. They face high-flying Derby County at Turf Moor this Saturday in the live Sky Sports televised game so those going to the match should remember the late kick-off time of 5:20 pm

The Preamble

Burnley are playing with remarkable inconsistency at the moment and we just can`t seem to string a few wins together and go on a convincing run. Consequently then the Clarets continue to hover just in or just below the play-offs spots being currently in tenth spot just one point behind sixth-placed Nottingham Forest. The top two clubs though keep picking up points at our expense and although Cardiff City lost at home to Forest last weekend, they remain ten points clear of the Clarets in second place. QPR though beat Preston at Loftus Road 3-1 last Saturday taking back the top spot and in so doing opening up a twelve point gap over the Clarets. The automatic promotion places are therefore continuing to look a distant dream at the moment although all is not lost just yet. We just need to go on that elusive run, maintain our home form and start picking up victories on the road! Simples!!

Our match last Saturday away to Coventry was such a disappointment. Against a very poor but battling, physical tall Sky Blues side we went down 1-0 to a single goal against the run of play but the biggest criticism seems to have been aimed at Brian Laws for his team selection and tactics during the game. It is therefore vital we get something from the match against the Rams and nothing less than a victory in convincing style will keep the 'Laws Out` brigade at bay at least for the time being.

Derby County struggled against relegation last season and had a poor start to this season but are now currently enjoying a lofty 4th position in the League after going on a run that has seen them win four of their last five games. They currently have 30 points from 18 games four more than the Clarets.

The Rams away form is certainly better than ours too and in their 9 games on the road this season they have won four and drawn two. They did lose to Leicester City 2-0 though in their last outing and it is vital we halt the progress of Nigel Clough`s men in this six-pointer on Saturday.

Burnley Team News:

It has already been announced that left back, Danny Fox will be sidelined for some time with ankle ligament damage following the injury he picked up against Doncaster Rovers at Turf Moor. He could be out injured for 2-3 weeks at least.

Martin Paterson has been suffering from a thigh strain which he picked up towards the end of the first half against Doncaster Rovers. He has not played since and news of his fitness for Saturday is awaited.

Meanwhile there has been some good news regarding Chris McCann following knee surgery a few months back to correct his persistent cruciate ligament problem. McCann has been given the go-ahead to resume light training with a view to a comeback in the New Year.

Player to watch: Lee Grant

Grant looks set to play against his former club on Saturday. He played for the Rams between 2000-2007 and indeed also spent a spell on loan at Turf Moor during this period . Grant joined Burnley on a one-month loan in November 2005 as cover for the suspended Brian Jensen. He went straight in to the team and made his debut for Burnley against Leicester City on 19 November, but despite a one-month extension to the loan, Grant failed to force Jensen out as first choice 'keeper and did not play again for the first team before returning to Derby.

The former Owls keeper has been generally impressive since taking over from Brian Jensen and he has made a number of excellent saves also showing on occasion better distribution than the Beast. We may need to call on him again against a rampant Derby attack.

Derby County Team News:

Left back Gareth Roberts picked up a red card for a second bookable offence in Derby`s 3-2 home victory against Scunthorpe last weekend. He picks up an automatic one-match suspension and will therefore miss the game at Turf Moor.

Keeper, Stephen Byewater has recently been sidelined with a wrist injury but played in a Reserves game last week and made a couple of appearances on the first-team bench against Leicester and Scunthorpe. It looks like he will lose out again to on-loan Blackburn keeper, Frank Fielding

Fielding has played the last eight matches but he was forced to pull out of the England Under-21 squad for the recent friendly against Germany because of an injury to his hip. He was however between the sticks for their game against Scunthorpe and looks to have fully recovered.

22 year old midfielder, James Bailey is also set to return. Bailey had been ever-present for the Rams this season before a sickness bug forced him to sit out the Scunthorpe game last weekend.

Defenders Shaun Barker and Dean Moxey also look likely to make a return.

Barker missed the Scunthorpe win due to a one-match ban for reaching five yellow cards and Moxey was laid low by the sickness bug that hit Bailey, although he was on the bench. Moxey looks set to replace the suspended Roberts.

Player to watch: Kris Commons

Kris Commons is currently second in the Npower Championship Top Scorers league with 10 goals, one goal more than Chris Iwelumo in third. The 27 year old winger and midfielder started his professional career with Stoke City before moving to Nottingham Forest in a 300k deal on 1 July 2004.

In June 2008 it was announced that Commons had signed for local rivals Derby County on a free transfer, penning a three-year contract with the club. He has since scored 18 goals in 72 appearances for the Rams scoring at a rate of 1-in-4 games. He will clearly be the danger man against the Clarets on Saturday.

Team & Tactics

The big debate concerning formation continues. More and more Clarets fans it seems are calling for a more attacking 4-4-2 formation with our leading goal-scorer Chris Iwelumo partnered up front by either Jay Rodriguez, Steve Thompson or Martin Paterson. JayRod and Pato have typically spent most of their time playing wider roles this season and yet both are natural strikers. Pato has played one game up front but in that match he was still the lone striker and of all our strikers, with his lack of height, he is the one that most needs a tall striker up front to play-off.

The question is though what does Brian laws intend to do? Ignore his critics and stick with 4-5-1 (4-3-3) or try something different? Moving from 4-5-1 to 4-4-2 at 2-1 down against Watford in our last home match had the desired effect and we came out 3-2 winners but that tactic was not repeated with the substitutions against Coventry at the Ricoh Arena last Saturday when many were expecting a similar reshuffle at 1-0 down.

Laws seems pretty obstinate with his 4-5-1 starting eleven and I expect that once more we will have a similar team, tactics and formation selected for the Derby clash. Brian Easton looks set to deputise for Fox at left back and for the moment I will assume that Paterson is still sidelined.

I will predict therefore that we will have the same eighteen for the third game running with Iwelumo alone up front trying to add to his nine goal tally at home. Hopefully one day he will also score his first goal for the Clarets on the road but I remain convinced his goal count would be even higher home and away if he had a partner up front with him:

Grant, Mears, Duff, Carlisle, Easton, Alexander, Eagles, Cork, Elliott, Rodriguez, Iwelumo

Subs: Jensen, Cort, Edgar, Bikey, Marney, Wallace, Thompson

Ref Watch:

West Yorkshire referee Mark Haywood is in charge of this game. He commenced his refereeing career in West Yorkshire in 1993 progressing through the West Yorkshire and Northern Premier Leagues to reach the National List of assistant referees in 2002. After four more seasons he was again promoted in 2006, to the National List of referees. In his fifteen games this season in the Championship and lower leagues, he has only a modest number of bookings clocked up with on average less than 2 per game. He has shown a red card just the once also handing out 25 yellows.

Match Prediction:

This is a crucial match for the gaffer and anything less than a convincing win could begin to make life uncomfortable for Laws again if the home crowd begin to vent their anger and that won`t sound pretty in front of the live Sky cameras. A 3-1 victory with a good display in both halves for a change could ensure some of the fans knives are put back in their sheaths at least for the moment.3-1 it is then!

Next Match

The quest to win our first league away win of the season and only our fourth in 40 matches continues on Saturday 4th December with a visit to Fratton Park to play Steve Cotterill`s Portsmouth. (Kick-Off @3pm)

The Journalist

Writer: turfmanphil Mail feedback, articles or suggestions

Date:Wednesday November 24 2010

Time: 10:42AM

Your Comments (oldest first)

Change to most recent first
Come on you Clarets! Really,really hope this doesn't turn nasty for Brain and we have a thumping win
Report Abuse
24/11/2010 10:43:00
Would agree with you TMP, and I am not saying it is correct, but anything less than a win will see the 'Laws Out' brigade in full force!
Report Abuse
24/11/2010 12:09:00
This is going to be a tough game, But the Lads should be up for this one
Report Abuse
24/11/2010 14:41:00
A very tough game and one which really must be won convincingly, my opinion is it will not be unless BL fills the team with confidence, puts out an attacking team and gets 100% vocal support from the fans. Sadly, I am not holding my breath but get to it you Clarets and the fans, make me change my mind as to where we are heading.
Report Abuse
24/11/2010 15:07:00
Any sort of win will do.
grimsby claret
Report Abuse
24/11/2010 17:50:00
Some latest Clarets team news: Bikey fit to play but both Eagles & Pato doubtful.Eagles struggling with a back injury (has been for last few matches interestingly) and hasn't trained all week plus Pato still doubtful.Laws quote: 'With the opposition not knowing much about him,John Guidetti could well get a shot' Em no doubt out wide!!
Report Abuse
26/11/2010 07:11:00
3 points is the Vital result. Points will determine our season not performances or formations. 4 5 1 or is it 4 3 3 he plays? Are JayRod Big Chris and Wide Boy Chris attack minded enough to warrant calling them a 3.....it doesn't matter come the end of the season its the points that determine our future.
Report Abuse
26/11/2010 09:18:00
Except I don't think that 4 5 1 or 4 3 3 is giving us enough points at the moment, certainly if automatic promotion is the target as it should be after a year in the top flight
Report Abuse
26/11/2010 09:35:00
Are we sure our alleged 4-5-1 isn't a 4-1-4-1? And we are talking about steamtrain wheel arrangements I assume? Bring back 2-3-5!
Couch Potato
Report Abuse
26/11/2010 14:14:00
After Chelsea's diamond and christmas tree formations, I think we should fool them all and go for the dodecahedron formation. Do you think they would notice playing the extra 12th man?
Report Abuse
26/11/2010 15:03:00
We could always try 5-0-5-0 to remind us of life under *oyley! Didn't we play 7-3 under Stan once?
Couch Potato
Report Abuse
26/11/2010 16:09:00
Agreed Couch, 2-3-5, those were the days. What a sight, two wingers and a centre forward supported by two inside forwards (memories of Jimmy Mac) all streaming forward. More chance for the TMP formation me thinks.
Report Abuse
27/11/2010 10:54:00
On live on Fox here in Australia -even though it is 1.20am! Been kept awake by watching the B####rds being routed by Utd. Hope to see the Clarets rout Derby. C,mon you Clarets!
Report Abuse
27/11/2010 17:27:00
This is the first whole game I've seen and I can see why we are not in the top six - lots of possession and absolutely no penetration whatsoever. We lack someone to give the killer pass or take on a couple of players. Their goal was a deflection but given much too much room to shoot. Overall not impressed - especially at 2.13am in the morning. Worse than watching the Ashes!!
Report Abuse
27/11/2010 18:14:00
Steve Cotterill on SKY joins the call for 4-4-2 and Elliott out wide. The deflection was cruel. Grant had it covered and it glanced off Clarke's leg and picked up spin that swung it right into the top corner. Not really disagreeing with Ozjean, though Derby are making it hard by showing little intent. Hoping for 3 Claret goals and Strauss and Cook to bat all day!
Couch Potato
Report Abuse
27/11/2010 18:24:00
And we do go 4-4-2 and Wado goes out wide and... at last we turn a decent - not great - performance in a game we dominated into a... WIN!!!
Couch Potato
Report Abuse
27/11/2010 19:15:00
Difficult to beat a side intent on defence, very disappointed in Derby's game. Seems we diug out a win despite. Thought, does Steve Cotterill want a change of job?
Report Abuse
27/11/2010 21:23:00
The Steve Cotterill interview was interesting. Brief - but the way he talked he sort of sounded homesick. Couldn't put a finger on it exactly but I felt that he would have been into the team at half time given even a tenth of a chance. Odd realy since he should be more at home where he is now than up in the freezing north with chips, pies, flat-hats, back to backs, funny accents, soot and gri.............. and on and on.
Report Abuse
27/11/2010 21:26:00
Oh yes and the performance. I've got to say that when we turn it on we do it well and when we turn it off we do that well also. Trouble is we can do it in parts as well e.g. back line on and front line off (I know the front line is a tad shorter). I can't help feeling that the supporters are playing a bigger part in this than we think. Not just at the games either. The press and forums play their part too.
Report Abuse
27/11/2010 21:32:00
Cotterill certainly looked delighted to be back at Turf Moor and I am looking forward to seeing him again at Pompey next week. Always liked him and, as I have said many times, thought he was a great manager for us as he gave us some tactical awareness after the carefree Ternent days and helped pave the way for the open, motivational football we had under Owen Coyle. Think the lovefest will be suspended next Saturday but Cotterill will do a good job at Portsmouth and any team finishing above them this year will have done ok.
Report Abuse
27/11/2010 21:35:00
Just ran the pre game interview with him back again! Did he say that he was invited to the "Chairmans Party!!!!!!!!!". Lets see if we can beat this one up a bit.
Report Abuse
27/11/2010 21:42:00
It's never easy being a Burnley fan . Total midfield domination again but no shape at all up front. They get one chance , and it goes in off a deflection. A bit like the game at the Ricoh arena, where there was nothing to beat with regard to the opposition except thay we couldn't score to save our lives. But we did today and thank **** for that 'cos it would have been a serious stealing of unjustified points by an outplayed negative Derby side. I didn't understand the subsitution of Marney by Alexander, but did I hear correctly on the telly tonight that Marney has a hamstring problem ? There's nothing to beat next Saturday either after seeeing them at the Liberty, even thought they did well to get the points. Let's hit them with 4 4 2 and wipe them off the map.
Report Abuse
28/11/2010 00:44:00
At half time I called for 3 Bfc goals and for Strauss and Cook to bat all day. Not a bad prediction! Still work to be done, but a sense of progress. After all the recent inquests... Laws has been calling for his players to be patient late on. They were. We won. Cotterill... good to see him back. But maybe he was encouraging 4-4-2 because that's what he wants us to play at Fratton? Hope the Marney hamstring is okay, as I thought he played well. Like Welsh I was mystified by Grezza coming on in his place, but thought Grezza did well.
Couch Potato
Report Abuse
28/11/2010 07:21:00
2-3-5? Now that brings back memories. You have to remember too that we also had attacking full backs in those days as well very much like today. Back then it was Angus & Elder setting the scene and storming and overlappinng down the flanks with the wingers ahead of them
Report Abuse
29/11/2010 07:20:00
John Angus and Alex Elder - those were the days . But these are the days as well, we've been so long in the wilderness that it takes a while to adjust to the idea that we can enjoy success again. We've got the squad, easily the best in a long time.
Report Abuse
29/11/2010 22:11:00

Have Your Say

Log in...
with your social network     OR     with your Vital account

Recent Burnley Articles

Officials - Hull v Burnley (25/2/17) (Thursday February 23 2017)

Brady & Boyd Talk Hull (Thursday February 23 2017)

No FA Cup Hangover For Westwood (Thursday February 23 2017)

Mee - Burnley Looking Up Not Down (Wednesday February 22 2017)

We Move On - Dyche (Tuesday February 21 2017)

Video - Burnley 0-1 Lincoln (Monday February 20 2017)

Archived Burnley Articles

List All Vital Burnley Articles
Have your say
Click here to suggest an article
Click here to suggest a poll

Vital Members League (view all)

League Results (view all)

Latest Results

League Table (view table)

Team P W D L GD Pts
9. WBA 13 4 5 4 1 17
10. AFC Bournemouth 12 4 3 5 -2 15
11. Stoke 13 3 5 5 -6 14
12. Burnley 13 4 2 7 -9 14
13. Southampton 11 3 4 4 0 13
14. Leicester City 13 3 4 6 -6 13
15. Middlesbrough 13 2 6 5 -3 12

Burnley Fixtures (view all)

Breaking League News

Panic Button Madness For Pundits
Leicester City : 23/02/2017 21:42:01
Meltdown Begins After Ranieri Axe - Lineker Responds
Leicester City : 23/02/2017 21:10:00
Leicester Sack Claudio Ranieri
Leicester City : 23/02/2017 20:45:00
Is China Calling?
Man Utd : 23/02/2017 18:34:01
Fabregas to Milan Rumour Resurrected
Chelsea : 23/02/2017 17:53:01

Current Site Poll (view all polls)

FAC - Lincoln MotM
Suggested By:  Site Staff
Heaton 0%
Darikwa 25%
Keane 0%
Tarkowski 30%
Flanagan 5%
Berg Gudmundsson 5%
Westwood 0%
Barton 10%
Arfield 5%
Gray 5%
Vokes 0%
Sub - Boyd 10%
Sub - Barnes 5%