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Southampton vs. Burnley

St Marys

Saturday 25th April 2009

3pm

Saints Preserve Us, Are They Relegated?

The Clarets need just three points from their last two games of the season to ensure a place in the play-offs and they have their first chance on Saturday when they play Southampton at St Marys. The Hampshire club have now been effectively relegated after yesterday being docked 10 points by the Football League and it will be interesting to see what sort of fight the Saints now put up against the Clarets.

Setting the Scene

A marvellous 1-0 victory at Turf Moor against high-flying Sheffield United on Monday night strongly kept our play-off hopes alive and the Clarets now need just three points from their last two remaining games of the season to ensure they will feature in the play-offs. Reading beat Derby at Pride Park in midweek to go above us but we are currently in 6th on 72 points.

The victory against the Blades, a team that had not lost away in the previous 15 games on the road ensured we now had a four point cushion over the chasing 7th and 8th placed clubs (Swansea and Preston).

We could clinch a play-offs spot therefore if we defeat Southampton at St Marys on Saturday but if not we might have to wait until our last game at home to Bristol City on Sunday May 3rd.

Both Preston and Swansea this Saturday face tough games on the road to play sides still looking to clinch automatic promotion. Our local rivals are up against Birmingham currently in 2nd spot in the late afternoon game while Swansea will not be relishing a trip to Bramall Lane to play Sheffield United in 3rd spot.

On paper therefore we should have the easier task. We should be too strong for the Saints, a club that have had a torrid season, languishing in the bottom three relegation positions for most of the season and being crippled by financial worries and administration threats. It got even bleaker for the Hampshire club yesterday. Southampton have been effectively relegated after being docked 10 points by the Football League.

The ruling comes after Saints' parent company, Southampton Leisure Holdings plc went into administration, though the club and administrators say they expect to launch an appeal. The Football League did not accept the club`s argument that the parent company going into administration was not the same as the club suffering the same fate. If they lose the appeal, the 10 points will be deducted so even if they get the four points they need for safety in their last two games they would still go down after the points deduction. If they remain in the bottom three and suffer relegation, the points will be taken off next season when they start their campaign in League 1. It is a very sad state of affairs and no fan should wish this on another club. We wish Southampton all the best and hope they can bounce back next season and sort out their financial situation.

All these shenanigans off the pitch leave one question at the back of the minds of all Clarets fans. How will this news affect the motivation and performance of the Saints on the pitch this Saturday?

They might have been up for a fight if relegation was not now almost certain. The hammer blow yesterday could be the final straw psychologically although with the appeal if successful they still could survive. On the other hand, maybe they think the pressure is off now and they can just relax and enjoy a game of football feeling they have something to prove. It is a difficult one to call and I think the Clarets simply have to put aside all thought of how the Saints players might react and concentrate on their own game without being too complacent. It would be nice to secure the play-offs spot in this clash rather than have to win in our last game of the season against the Robins at Turf Moor. That could be too much pressure for Clarets fans to bear in this roller-coaster of a season.

The only injury doubt for the Clarets appears to be Steven Thompson. He has not played since being injured in the game against Nottingham Forest at Turf Moor back in March. It looks like Owen Coyle is not risking him until he is fully fit, hoping that his ankle ligament injury will fully recover in time for the play-offs. Coyle talking about Thommo`s situation said:

'He trained a few days ago and the pain was just too much for him. It`s still severely swollen but such was his desire to play he was prepared to put himself through the pain barrier. But what he couldn`t do was twist and turn, which is a big part of his game. He`s still continuing to improve and we`ll monitor that. Saturday might come too soon but who knows? Knowing him, he`ll certainly put himself on the line to try and play. But whether he can get through the pain threshold, time will tell"

Martin Paterson now seems to have fully recovered from his niggling hamstring problem and after scoring the vital and only goal in the game against the Blades on Monday night, looks set to retain his place leading the attack.

With no news of any further injury concerns, I suspect Coyle will name the same sixteen for the game against the Saints so we can expect the following line-up:

Jensen, Williams, Carlisle, Caldwell, Kalvenes, Alexander, Eagles, McCann. Elliott, Blake, Paterson

Subs: Penny, Duff, Gudjonsson, McDonald, Rodriguez

Southampton Team News:

No team news is currently available but we will provide in due course below this article

Player to watch: Kelvin Davis

The Saints keeper could be key in this game with his side only managing one clean sheet in the last six games. The England Under 21 stopper signed for Southampton from Sunderland in July 2006 for a fee reported to be around 1m.

Burnley Team News:

Steven Thompson looks to be the only doubt since he still seems to be suffering with an ankle ligament injury.

Player to watch: Martin Paterson

He returned with a vengeance on Monday night scoring a goal for the first time since February and despite missing a few games recently due to injury he is still our leading goal scorer with 18 goals this season, 12 of them in the Championship. He looks up for it now and could be a key player in our remaining matches including hopefully now the play-off games.

Last Time We Met

The Clarets defeated the Saints 3-2 at Turf Moor back in December last year and at St Marys in the previous season almost a year ago came away with a 1-0 victory thanks to a goal by Caldwell.

Ref Watch:

Peter Walton (Northamptonshire)

Match Prediction:

Providing we don`t get too complacent and we can focus on our normal game, we should be too strong for the Saints and I am looking forward to a victory. If we get the first goal, with all the problems Southampton are having, their heads could drop but I will go with a 2-0 Clarets win.

Next Match

It`s the last scheduled game of the season in the fixture list with Bristol City the visitors to Turf Moor on Sunday 3rd May. The Robins have nothing to play for but pride after failing to reach the play-offs and for the Clarets it might just be a matter of winning to finish as high as possible in the top 6 with a play-offs spot already secured. If things go really badly this weekend though, it could be a game we have to win to ensure we are still in with a chance of getting to Wembley and a play-offs final.




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Date:Friday April 24 2009

Time: 9:16AM

Your Comments

Let's just thump Saints and sail into the play-offs! Dont really want to sit sweating on the way back waiting for the Brum v Preston score to come in
turfmanphil
Let's just thump Saints and sail into the play-offs! Dont really want to sit sweating on the way back waiting for the Brum v Preston score to come in
turfmanphil
Well done turfman-on-the-ball! That was the first I had heard about the Saints points deduction. It will be interesting to buy a local paper there tomorrow and get their version of a story that affects us all. If they get away with the 'holding company' appeal, we can expect either the rules to change, or every other club in the country to form a holding company. But, for personal reasons, I am relieved if it isn't actually Burnley who send the Saints down. Whether as a result of our own efforts, or from Swans and PNE not winning, I reckon we'll secure a play-off spot tomorrow. Coyle will keep the squad firmly set on a target of playing every game like a cup final. I am hoping for lots of free-flowing football and, of course, a Claret win.
Couch Potato
Well done turfman-on-the-ball! That was the first I had heard about the Saints points deduction. It will be interesting to buy a local paper there tomorrow and get their version of a story that affects us all. If they get away with the 'holding company' appeal, we can expect either the rules to change, or every other club in the country to form a holding company. But, for personal reasons, I am relieved if it isn't actually Burnley who send the Saints down. Whether as a result of our own efforts, or from Swans and PNE not winning, I reckon we'll secure a play-off spot tomorrow. Coyle will keep the squad firmly set on a target of playing every game like a cup final. I am hoping for lots of free-flowing football and, of course, a Claret win.
Couch Potato
I have now read a bit more on the Saints' predicament. Am I right in understanding that, if they don't get enough points to avoid relagation, then the 10-point deduction will be made next season in League One? Does that mean that while we are playing for 3 points for this season, they are playing for 10 for next. That could be a very powerful motivation for them. So we will all need to get behind the Clarets even more. E I E I E I O...
Couch Potato
I have now read a bit more on the Saints' predicament. Am I right in understanding that, if they don't get enough points to avoid relagation, then the 10-point deduction will be made next season in League One? Does that mean that while we are playing for 3 points for this season, they are playing for 10 for next. That could be a very powerful motivation for them. So we will all need to get behind the Clarets even more. E I E I E I O...
Couch Potato
It depends how you look at it, they must have at the back of their mind that unless an appeal succeeds (looks unlikely) they are relegated no matter what they do. In some ways, I suppose dropping the 10 points by finishing out of the bottom three and then being relegated might be better than losing 10 at the start of next season but either way, it must be demoralising for them. They would still need four points from their last two games just to still go down? I think the Clarets just have to focus and get on with it, without thinking what the Saints might do
turfmanphil
It depends how you look at it, they must have at the back of their mind that unless an appeal succeeds (looks unlikely) they are relegated no matter what they do. In some ways, I suppose dropping the 10 points by finishing out of the bottom three and then being relegated might be better than losing 10 at the start of next season but either way, it must be demoralising for them. They would still need four points from their last two games just to still go down? I think the Clarets just have to focus and get on with it, without thinking what the Saints might do
turfmanphil
The Clarets will alway's focus on what they do and wont give the saints a 2nd thought , their buisness is not our buisness ! But Southamton will be fired up to avoid a 10 point deduction next season , it will make their chances of bouncing back much more difficult , starting on minus 10 points !!
Bernie Lee
The Clarets will alway's focus on what they do and wont give the saints a 2nd thought , their buisness is not our buisness ! But Southamton will be fired up to avoid a 10 point deduction next season , it will make their chances of bouncing back much more difficult , starting on minus 10 points !!
Bernie Lee
Some Saints Team News:Southampton are likely to name an unchanged squad this weekend. Simon Gillett (knee), Anthony Pulis (foot), Michael Svensson (Achilles), Jamie White (ankle) and Matt Paterson (broken nose) are still sidelined.
turfmanphil
Some Saints Team News:Southampton are likely to name an unchanged squad this weekend. Simon Gillett (knee), Anthony Pulis (foot), Michael Svensson (Achilles), Jamie White (ankle) and Matt Paterson (broken nose) are still sidelined.
turfmanphil
Lee Holmes could return for Southampton but the game has come too soon for former Clarets defender Wayne Thomas. Holmes stepped up his fitness in the reserves in midweek and could come into contention but Thomas will not figure despite playing 45 minutes for the second string.
turfmanphil
Lee Holmes could return for Southampton but the game has come too soon for former Clarets defender Wayne Thomas. Holmes stepped up his fitness in the reserves in midweek and could come into contention but Thomas will not figure despite playing 45 minutes for the second string.
turfmanphil
Strange thing is Thomas moved on to better himself...so did Andy Gray....funny old thing football..lol....UP THE CLARETS
Cardiff_Claret
Strange thing is Thomas moved on to better himself...so did Andy Gray....funny old thing football..lol....UP THE CLARETS
Cardiff_Claret
Please Burnley, as a Portsmouth fan, I neg you to win today! If you do the Scum, will start next season in League One, with -10 points. You should win easily, you're clearly better by miles, so Please! Look forward to playing you in the Premiership next season! ?
MFFP
Please Burnley, as a Portsmouth fan, I neg you to win today! If you do the Scum, will start next season in League One, with -10 points. You should win easily, you're clearly better by miles, so Please! Look forward to playing you in the Premiership next season! ?
MFFP
THANKS YOUU!!!!!
MFFP
THANKS YOUU!!!!!
MFFP
Well I wish we had won rather than drawn after that sodding Preston result but the Saints played extremely well.
turfmanphil
Well I wish we had won rather than drawn after that sodding Preston result but the Saints played extremely well.
turfmanphil
Well with the Saints doomed and you in a great play off spot, this should be a nailed on three points for you.
Thaibluefan
Well with the Saints doomed and you in a great play off spot, this should be a nailed on three points for you.
Thaibluefan
 

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