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The Stan Days and Fan Ways!

Its no secret that for my sins, I never saw any live matches when Stan was manager and only ever saw a handful of matches on TV mainly Cup ties, some were pretty impressive (eg Spurs) and some not so impressive (eg Watford).

I would however like to start a debate on those days with comments on how you compare Stan's performance to our current gaffer, Steve Cotterill, especially in the light of the latter being under the cosh recently.

Undoubtably Stan did a lot for the club especially pre-Digital fiasco with the promotions and the two 7th place Championship finishes. I can obviously understand the excitement and entertaining football there must have been at the matches in those days especially watching them live.

But when the rug was taken away and we look at the last two ST seasons as our financial plight began to bite plus you look at the stats and remember some of those horrendous scores involving 4 to 7 goals against us on a pretty regular basis, what were your thoughts about this at the time?

Was there a chorus for Stan's head at the time (or any booing) or was it all put down to the financial situation? I am just curious because when you look at the terrible goal difference 2002-4 and recall 2-7 and 4-7 etc you surely must have been feeling uncomfortable and worried.

Comparing Stan's post-Digital stats (see below) with Steve Cotterill's three seasons so far,yes I can see under Stan it must have been more entertaining in terms of seeing more goals go in,but what was the point when overall,the opposition scored more against us?

Did the fact that Stan Ternent had a connection with the club and had previously done well in the pre-Digital days help protect him from the wrath of the Clarets fans during his last two seasons ? If Steve Cotterill had also been in that similar situation would he have been handed less harsh treatment during the winless run?

Let's hear your views and your comparisons and feelings about our two managers.

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Stats below represent:

Season-Wins-Draws-Losses-Goals for-Goal a-GD-Total Points-Position

2002/3 (ST) 15-10-21-65-89 minus 24-55-16th

2003/4 (ST) 12-14-19-60-77 minus 17-53-19th

2004/5 (SC) 15-15-16-38-39 minus 1-60-13th

2005/6 (SC) 14-12-20-46-54 minus 8-54-17th

2006/7 (SC) 13-12-16-43-41 plus 2 so far!! with 5 to play. 51-66 points possible.Midtable finish predicted




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Writer: turfmanphil Mail feedback, articles or suggestions

Date:Thursday April 12 2007

Time: 9:11AM

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Well, I think both Stan and Steve both have their good points, and their bad points. I personally would prefer to see none of them as our manager next season. A few week ago I was calling for Cotterill's head and suggesting that he should be replaced by Stan until the end of the season. I felt this because the team didn't look like they were being put under any pressure by the manager- and we all know that if Stan got in that dressing room he would give them a kick up the backside, something I dont think Cotterill ever would do. What Stan did have was a fantastic relationship with the fans, which is probably one of the reasons the boos were not there with him. He did, though, have a lot less money avaliable in his last seasons to what Cotterill has had- especially this season. Stan did some fantastic stuff for us, and Cotterill like-wise has done some good stuff. They have both done not-so-good things too. The one thing in Stan's favor was the attacking, exciting football that has disappeared sinice his departure. Although if that means shipping 7 goals against already-relegated Wednesday is that really a good thing? TO summerise, I don't think the two are comparable. They have both been amnagers of thsi great club at different times, just as the next manager will be.
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12/04/2007 09:36:00

This is one view from a poster on another Clarets site I use where I asked similar questions:"I thought it was crap. At first it was hard to get angry with Stan due to his previous achievements and the constant reminders from the Boardroom that we were skint. However, after a while my mind changed and I became fairly negative about him. When the news broke that he was leaving I thought it was the right decision by the Board. It was a very strange period tho. There was talk of administration and it really was hammered home to the fans just how much financial trouble we were in. Stan couldn't take the blame on his own, but at the same time he made some rank bad signings in those last few years and did some strange things. I don't remember a concerted mb campaign against him, but, like I said, he had previous achievements in his favour in addition to his connections with the club. That said, I think another season like those last two with him would have seen the tide turn against him."
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