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Did Howe Make a Mistake Signing Treacy and Hines?

Did Howe Make a Mistake Signing Treacy and Hines?

Three players left Turf Moor and went out on loan on Thursday (loan deadline day). We have already reviewed the situation regarding Andre Amougou. He made his debut for Bristol City on Saturday and will be playing for the struggling Championship side until the last week of the season. Eddie Howe has already hinted that Amougou`s days at Turf Moor are now numbered and the 27 year old defender seems highly likely to leave the club when his contract expires in the summer.

Amougou though was an Owen Coyle signing, so maybe his face simply doesn`t fit under the new regime but what of the other two players who also went out on loan last week?

Both Keith Treacy and Zavon Hines came highly rated after being signed by Eddie Howe in the summer but both have basically failed miserably to make any sort of impression.

Republic of Ireland international winger, Keith Treacy signed a three-year deal with Burnley FC on August 1st last year . With both Chris Eagles and Wade Elliott having departed a lot was being asked of the former Blackburn and Preston winger. Many Clarets fans thought he would soon slot into the team and be just as effective, if not better than the wingers we had just lost.

At first, it looked like those sentiments were about to be proven right but gradually Treacy seemed unable to impress and at times looked disinterested. There was also criticism from some fans that he looked unfit and fat and it certainly didn`t help his cause by looking lethargic on the pitch.

Treacy made his last appearance for the Clarets when he started the game at home to Millwall at the end of February. Once again though, he failed to deliver, with the Clarets dismally losing the game 3-1. He has not featured since, even on the bench!

On Thursday, it was announced he would now be sent out on loan to League 1, Sheffield Wednesday for the remainder of the season and he duly came on from the bench in the 78th minute on Saturday to make his debut for the promotion-chasing Owls helping them beat Orient 1-0 away from home.

How many Clarets fans at the start of the season would have been expecting to see Treacy go out on loan before the season end? Could Eddie Howe be blamed for Treacy`s inability to impress or is there something more fundamental going wrong? Does the problem lie in Treacy`s head? Why has he not performed as expected? I wish I had the answers but I now remain convinced that he could not hold a candle to either Eagles or Elliott based on this season`s lacklustre performances. We have badly missed both Eagles and Elliott and have singularly failed to find appropriate wingers to replace them. Junior Stanislas has also not exactly set the world alight and even Ross Wallace blows hot and cold. Is that down to Howe or the players? Let us know your opinion below this article.

We had already reported that Zavon Hines looked likely to be leaving on loan to Bournemouth and that was confirmed on Thursday. He will now play for the Cherries, Eddie Howe`s former club until the end of the season. He made his debut for the Cherries on Saturday in the 1-0 defeat away to Oldham.

Hines too came to Burnley in the summer with high expectations.

The striker was a highly rated prospect having arrived from West Ham in August 2011 Due to his age, his transfer fee was decided by tribunal and it was estimated to be in the region of £250,000. Hines initially made a few appearances from the bench before making his first start for the club in the 2-1 Carling Cup 3rd round home win against MK Dons back in September last year. Apart from another start in the 4th round tie away to Cardiff, the rest of his limited appearances have been from the bench and he has yet to score for the Clarets first-team. His last appearance was coming on as a substitute in the 75th minute in the game away to Southampton last month.

Are we being unfair on Hines? Is he one for the future or should he already be delivering? Did Howe do the right thing in signing him? Again Clarets fans will have differing views so why not let us have them below this article?

What could the future of Treacy & Hines be at Turf Moor? Do they have one?

Eddie Howe gave a little bit of a clue last week when he said:

'It's a chance for them to go out and show what they can do. We don't close the door on them at all.

'They still have a future here if they show while they are on loan that they have got the desire and the fight to come back and play here.'

Howe speaking specifically about Treacy said:

'He has all the talent in the world. He could be whatever he wants to be. We have seen that in flashes this season but we haven't seen it on a consistent basis.

'Leaving the environment for a spell and getting some games at a lower level will hopefully show everyone what he is capable of and hopefully he will come back here next season a different player.

In relation to Hines, Howe said:

'We don't lose faith in Zavon. He hasn't been given too many opportunities to play. We do have a good striking department and he has found chances hard to come by.

'This is a chance for him to go to a good club and to play some football and hopefully he can show everybody what he is capable of and then we can take it from there.'

I think reading between the lines and trying to paraphrase Howe, I would judge this to mean:

1. Amougou...sorry mate time to go!

2. Treacy-Last chance saloon, pull yer socks up!

3. Hines-We want to keep you, must try harder!

Both Treacy and Hines are also in a somewhat better position than Amougou being protected by contracts that don`t run out in the summer.

But what do you think?

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Date:Sunday March 25 2012
Time: 2:49PM


I was impressed by Hines first time I saw him. Thought he offered something different. He looked lively and played a more wider role, cutting in! All seems to have evaporated but perhaps he was just never given enough opportunities to shine with so much cover up front. Only memorable Treacy moment, was his goal away to Posh! Big disappointment, I have to say!
25/03/2012 14:54:00
I thought Keith looked very promising when he came on for the last 20-25 mins on the opening day.A lot of Wednesday fans have been asking me what Treacy is like. I have responded that he has a lot of ability and two decent feet. The problem is - we dont see it often enough.Is this Howes fault? Is this how Treacy always is and we should have known? is he unhappy at Turf? or is he just uninterested. Hines is a strange one - We havent seen enough of him to truly comment? Is he not impressing in training? As things stand, sadly, neither of them would be a big loss to the first team if they were to leave.
25/03/2012 15:43:00
Have quite a few PNE friends and they just laughed at me when we took him, comments from them were simply he likes his ale too much and can be too hit and miss. I feel he is a wasted talent and if PNE were unable to turn him into a athlete who wanted to play at the highest levels then our management stood no chance. I also think this applies to Amougou, look at Mancini with Tevez, Bikey would be far better with Duff than Edgar but only if the desire and arm around Amougous' shoulders was working. Bikey is another wasted talent that we have failed to manage imo. As for Hines well I have no real idea if he is any good, a bit like Guerroro.....
25/03/2012 17:19:00
Be fair, you can't win em all. EH has done a good job with minimal resources.
25/03/2012 17:49:00
Laws didn't have huge resources or in fact many days to stop the car crash the old manager left him, Laws team was 6th when he left and since then we have gone down the table, so at what point do we accept "done a good job with minimal resources", mid table Division 1? If you make excuses for Howe, then you must accept that Laws has excuses too.
25/03/2012 19:33:00
I actually agree with that sentiment VR, I slated Laws at the time although maybe our expectation was higher since we were one of favourites to go straight back up after relegation! Kilby said 8th was failure now it seems to be accepted that 16th and a team in transition is perfectly OK! It's hogwash really and a cover up for the Board's failures over the last three seasons. Laws would have done better I suspect and that really is unnerving to say. Howe has a lot to prove and the Board have to give him the resources to prove it. Of course they will make positive noises until they have all the season tickets sold then it will be back to being a selling club and sticking plaster.
26/03/2012 09:31:00
I was a bit surprised at the enthusiasm for Treacy when we signed him, but he's turned out to be a bit more inconsistent than I expected. Laws had a significantly higher payroll than Howe, but was not as bad as he's generally made out to be. Both Laws and Howe have had to deal with the post-Coyltal (sorry, couldn't resist) fall-out in the psychology of the squad, with Amougou being the last of the awkward squad to go.
Couch Potato
26/03/2012 14:45:00
Not great signings as things have turned out...though I would question Hines costing us £250K, I understood it was a more nominal gesture than that and he is on a deal heavily based on pay-to-play. If this is the case, then the poor lad is probably very fed up. But both players now have an opportunity to prove themselves rather than stew on the sidelines at the Turf, which I think is the right policy from the manager. I too liked the look of Zavon in the fleeting glimpses I've seen him.....the ball seems to stick to his feet more than is the case with Junior at least. I suspect Treacy would not be at Burnley if we hadn't sold Eagles. In some ways a panic and convenient buy, he being local to the area. But that's not an excuse, I hope Eddie learns from his experience. EH's comments certainly look aimed to throw the ball back into the players' court. Its a big ask for any man-manager to change a player's lifestyle...if that is indeed what's at issue here. Hope it's not the case but it might be a File Under: Alan Moore, Berisha, Van der Schaff, Kevin McDonald.
26/03/2012 22:21:00
Cuban - chuck in Penny, Guerrero, Eckersley and you've almost got a starting XI!
Couch Potato
27/03/2012 09:58:00
Were they realy that bad or never given a chance under post -Coyle managers?
30/03/2012 20:58:00
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