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Date:Tuesday September 6 2011
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Rumour Mill-The Dawson and Wilson Contingencies
The loan window opens on Thursday this week with the Clarets widely expected to be active in the market.
They have already strongly been linked with Stoke defender, Ryan Shotton and Bolton striker, Tom Eaves.
There is no doubt though our defence has to be our top priority for strengthening. Ryan Shotton was a Burnley target in the summer transfer window which closed at the end of last month.
A deal failed to materialise but it was reported that Eddie Howe had still not given up and now hoped to bring him in on loan.
The long-throw expert looks to be the ideal candidate and would offer the Clarets something new in the back four.
There is still some doubt though that Tony Pulis would be willing to release the 22 year old since he appears to be the deputy for Rory Delap in the long-throw department; a tactic it seems crucial to Stoke's game. Shotton was also recently named in the Premier League's club 25 man squad suggesting he is firmly in Pulis's plans for the season ahead. The defender, who has also featured as an emergency striker has played a number of games recently for Stoke both in the top flight and in the Europa League.
If the Clarets therefore fail in their bid, who could also be on their radar as a contingency?
Two names in particular are being banded about. One is West Brom defender, Craig Dawson and Vital Burnley have already mentioned him as one of the possibilities in our Rumour Mill articles.
The 21 year old, former Rochdale defender has already been honoured at England Under 21 international level.
He is a local boy, born in Rochdale and spent most of his career playing for his local team even after signing for West Brom.
The Baggies signed him in August 2010 for an undisclosed fee on a three year deal but then almost immediately let him return to Rochdale on a season-long loan until the end of the 2010-11 season.
Dawson could relish a return to the North West in order to play some games
Another name we are being linked with is former Rangers defender, Danny Wilson (pictured above). The 19 year old Scotland international currently plies his trade with Liverpool but has found first team opportunities few and far between.
Wilson joined Liverpool in July 2010 after signing a three-year deal for an initial transfer fee of £2 million, potentially rising to £5 million based on appearances.
Since that time though he has made just two appearances for the club and is reported to be seeking a move away from Anfield.
He certainly looks a useful player and can play both at left back and as a central defender although even at Rangers he only featured in 14 games.
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I think you would have to say Shotton would be our best bet. The other two seem to have had limited opportunities in the Prem and indeed Dawson has spent most of his career playing at lower league level
turfmanphil
I think you would have to say Shotton would be our best bet. The other two seem to have had limited opportunities in the Prem and indeed Dawson has spent most of his career playing at lower league level
turfmanphil
I really can't see us landing Shotton based on him being named in both of Stokes squads. He must know that he has a great chance of breaking into the Stoke first team, has already played in Europe for them. So I am not going to be shocked or disappointed if we don't sign him. I do think we maybe able to spring a suprise loan...a bit like a rabbit out of a hat......
VinRogue
I really can't see us landing Shotton based on him being named in both of Stokes squads. He must know that he has a great chance of breaking into the Stoke first team, has already played in Europe for them. So I am not going to be shocked or disappointed if we don't sign him. I do think we maybe able to spring a suprise loan...a bit like a rabbit out of a hat......
VinRogue
Yep, think I agree VR, Shotton deal looking unlikely. Who would you go for between Dawson and Wilson or do neither rock your boat? On balance, I would probably go for Dawson. He will probably feel more settled being a Rochdale lad and has played far more competitive games albeit at lower league level
turfmanphil
Yep, think I agree VR, Shotton deal looking unlikely. Who would you go for between Dawson and Wilson or do neither rock your boat? On balance, I would probably go for Dawson. He will probably feel more settled being a Rochdale lad and has played far more competitive games albeit at lower league level
turfmanphil
According to the Stoke City player profiles Shotton out on loan is on the cards. May not have been updated but gives me a glimmer of hope. I would prefer not to choose between Dawson and Wilson, lets get them both. Or preferably all three.
cornwallclaret
According to the Stoke City player profiles Shotton out on loan is on the cards. May not have been updated but gives me a glimmer of hope. I would prefer not to choose between Dawson and Wilson, lets get them both. Or preferably all three.
cornwallclaret
I honestly would like a couple of Prem League players who are just outside their own squads. Perhaps players that we could take until January and then come early December if we are pusing for a top 6 spot then we would know what to do in January.......plus if they have been playing and improving it is a win win. I think defence is such a vital flaw at the moment that a Man City fringe player is going to be a lot better than say a regular young starter at Burton.
VinRogue
I honestly would like a couple of Prem League players who are just outside their own squads. Perhaps players that we could take until January and then come early December if we are pusing for a top 6 spot then we would know what to do in January.......plus if they have been playing and improving it is a win win. I think defence is such a vital flaw at the moment that a Man City fringe player is going to be a lot better than say a regular young starter at Burton.
VinRogue
Wilson is presumably left-footed, based on tmp's very helpful article. But what about Shotton and Dawson? I suspect Eddie is still looking for defenders with functional left feet. But, if nothing else this summer, we have learned that you don't always get exactly when you want when out shopping in this type of market. It's more like buying a house than a car, I would guess. There aren't unlimited supplies of exactly what you're looking for, but you've got to live somewhere!
Couch Potato
Wilson is presumably left-footed, based on tmp's very helpful article. But what about Shotton and Dawson? I suspect Eddie is still looking for defenders with functional left feet. But, if nothing else this summer, we have learned that you don't always get exactly when you want when out shopping in this type of market. It's more like buying a house than a car, I would guess. There aren't unlimited supplies of exactly what you're looking for, but you've got to live somewhere!
Couch Potato
By the way in case you were wondering,Dawson, while not named in West Brom’s 25, can still play in the Premier League as he was under the age of 21 on January 1st this year.
turfmanphil
By the way in case you were wondering,Dawson, while not named in West Brom’s 25, can still play in the Premier League as he was under the age of 21 on January 1st this year.
turfmanphil
Difficult one this, the loans are without doubt needed as the squad is too light, the issue is how fast you move in the month long window, do you do want Eddie always does well, that's use your patience card, or do you move quickly and bring a loan or two then you have your squad in place and ready to develop ?
hollinsclaret
Difficult one this, the loans are without doubt needed as the squad is too light, the issue is how fast you move in the month long window, do you do want Eddie always does well, that's use your patience card, or do you move quickly and bring a loan or two then you have your squad in place and ready to develop ?
hollinsclaret
The fact he is in the 25 doesnt mean anything in my opinion. I'm sure Pulis can manage with 13 substitutes when we get Shotton. He will be in the 25 in case Burnley dont go through with the deal for whatever reason. Just think how Shotton would feel if Burnley pulled out and he hadnt been named in the 25.
A long throw expert gives another string to our bow but it worries me that we might change our style of play too much because of it. Look how we changed our style just to accommodate Iwelumo
boltonclaret
The fact he is in the 25 doesnt mean anything in my opinion. I'm sure Pulis can manage with 13 substitutes when we get Shotton. He will be in the 25 in case Burnley dont go through with the deal for whatever reason. Just think how Shotton would feel if Burnley pulled out and he hadnt been named in the 25.
A long throw expert gives another string to our bow but it worries me that we might change our style of play too much because of it. Look how we changed our style just to accommodate Iwelumo
boltonclaret
Would love Shotton, but I'm not optimistic. According to the Pompey website there are only ten players left out of the 25 man squads for the whole of the premier league. All ten are from either Stoke or QPR: Danny Collins, Tom Soares, Danny Pugh, Michael Tonge, Andrew Davies, Rob Hulse, Patrick Agyemang, Hogan Ephraim, Danny *Shittu and Petter Vaagan Moen. Recon there'll be plenty of teams after the few defenders going out on loan.
marjory blenkinsop
Would love Shotton, but I'm not optimistic. According to the Pompey website there are only ten players left out of the 25 man squads for the whole of the premier league. All ten are from either Stoke or QPR: Danny Collins, Tom Soares, Danny Pugh, Michael Tonge, Andrew Davies, Rob Hulse, Patrick Agyemang, Hogan Ephraim, Danny *Shittu and Petter Vaagan Moen. Recon there'll be plenty of teams after the few defenders going out on loan.
marjory blenkinsop
In the 25 man squad if you are under a certain age and are left footed and went to school is it true you don't count?!? For example if Man Citeh had kept Mee and Trippier they would not have had to be named in the 25? If as I think it works like that ....sort of then Man Utd, Chelski etc etc will have 25 man squads plus the youngsters, which then would mean more players for the loan market.....NURSE a tablet quick...the internet is now working faster than my remaining 3 brain cells....NURSE.....I'll give you windy.....woops ...sorry Nurse Wendy....
VinRogue
In the 25 man squad if you are under a certain age and are left footed and went to school is it true you don't count?!? For example if Man Citeh had kept Mee and Trippier they would not have had to be named in the 25? If as I think it works like that ....sort of then Man Utd, Chelski etc etc will have 25 man squads plus the youngsters, which then would mean more players for the loan market.....NURSE a tablet quick...the internet is now working faster than my remaining 3 brain cells....NURSE.....I'll give you windy.....woops ...sorry Nurse Wendy....
VinRogue
If we did get a centre back in, I wonder what the options would be. Edgar dropped,new centre back in with Mee . Possibly,Easton dropped, Mee at left back and new signing in centre with Edgar or even Amougou? Would be hard on both Edgar and Easton to be honest! Don't think you should tamper with a winning team but have the bench ready
turfmanphil
If we did get a centre back in, I wonder what the options would be. Edgar dropped,new centre back in with Mee . Possibly,Easton dropped, Mee at left back and new signing in centre with Edgar or even Amougou? Would be hard on both Edgar and Easton to be honest! Don't think you should tamper with a winning team but have the bench ready
turfmanphil
The only way new loan signings would be replacing anyone would be if they were proven, experienced players. This does not seem to be the EH way, talented youngsters are the likely choice who would have to fight for their place alongside existing players. With the advantage of providing a stronger bench. Should be interesting days ahead.
cornwallclaret
The only way new loan signings would be replacing anyone would be if they were proven, experienced players. This does not seem to be the EH way, talented youngsters are the likely choice who would have to fight for their place alongside existing players. With the advantage of providing a stronger bench. Should be interesting days ahead.
cornwallclaret
Tend to agree CC, indeed interesting times ahead, just hope they aint nervy ones!
turfmanphil
Tend to agree CC, indeed interesting times ahead, just hope they aint nervy ones!
turfmanphil
Monday rumour (12/9)-Danny Wilson is a loan target for Championship outfit Leeds United as the Scotland defender continues to find himself out of the Liverpool first team. (Daily Record)
turfmanphil
Monday rumour (12/9)-Danny Wilson is a loan target for Championship outfit Leeds United as the Scotland defender continues to find himself out of the Liverpool first team. (Daily Record)
turfmanphil
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