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It was only on Saturday, that Burnley FC media manager, Darren Bentley was assuring listeners to Clarets Player during the Derby game that Jay Rodriguez was NOT FOR SALE!!

There was of course the usual proviso that we would always consider silly money though with that being suggested to be in the region of plus 8m!

Daft rumours have circulated during the week on dubious rumour mill websites that the Saints had made up to a 5.75m bid for Rodriguez. Some have even suggested a cash/player deal with 25 year old Saints winger, Jason Puncheon thrown in!

Most Clarets fans though will be hoping there is absolutely no truth in any of these rumours but sady tonight there was more fuelling of the speculation.

It would appear that Burnley have made an enquiry for Barnsley striker, Danny Haynes and not because they want to add to their striking department but according to reports because they fear they could lose Jay Rodriguez to Southampton.

We have been linked with Haynes though on and off all summer so what has changed?

Well,it seems that the 23 year old former Millwall and Bristol City goal-scorer was dropped to the bench for the first time this season with the reason being that Burnley were reportedly close to sealing a deal.

Haynes has scored six goals in 24 games for Barnsley so far and played every minute of every game except for the last 30 minutes of the 2-1 win at Reading last weekend.

He was however then surprisingly dropped to the bench for Saturday's goal-less draw at Millwall in favour of new recruit Danny Drinkwater

Tykes manager Keith Hill unusually decided to adopt a 4-5-1 formation for the first time this season or at least that is one of the reasons given for dropping Haynes.

I suspect though if there is any truth in Eddie Howe's interest, it is more likely to be because Burnley have failed in their attempt to sign Junior Stanislas from West Ham rather than any concern over losing Rodriguez! At least I bloody well hope so!

Hill has continued to deny that they would consider selling Haynes but it remains to be seen whether they would consider offers should Burnley make an official bid.

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Writer: turfmanphil Mail feedback, articles or suggestions

Date:Sunday August 28 2011

Time: 10:31PM

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I don't believe for one minute that Jay Rod will be sold to Southampton for the 4m to up to the ca 6 million reported. Surely the club would not be that stupid and would hold out for at least 8-10 million if money-bags Southampton have that sort of cash to burn?! There could be a Haynes link though considering we have lost Ings and Pato to injury and may be struggling to capture Stanislas [Edited by turfmanphil]
turfmanphil
I don't believe for one minute that Jay Rod will be sold to Southampton for the 4m to up to the ca 6 million reported. Surely the club would not be that stupid and would hold out for at least 8-10 million if money-bags Southampton have that sort of cash to burn?! There could be a Haynes link though considering we have lost Ings and Pato to injury and may be struggling to capture Stanislas [Edited by turfmanphil]
turfmanphil
Please, please BFC tell Saints to go and jump in the Solent whatever they offer. A settled squad means everything to players and fans alike and I do not want to be constantly worried about what will happen when the next window opens, prefer to be anticipating who we are going to sign to strengthen the squad.
cornwallclaret
Please, please BFC tell Saints to go and jump in the Solent whatever they offer. A settled squad means everything to players and fans alike and I do not want to be constantly worried about what will happen when the next window opens, prefer to be anticipating who we are going to sign to strengthen the squad.
cornwallclaret
The sad thing is, Jay Rod will have just one year left on his contract come the summer. and will more than likely be sold to avoid him leaving on a Bosman the following summer If we are prepared to accept the Board's stance on these matters then it will be the same old sell/good bit of business mentality as usual no matter what affect it has on the fans or indeed team's morale
turfmanphil
The sad thing is, Jay Rod will have just one year left on his contract come the summer. and will more than likely be sold to avoid him leaving on a Bosman the following summer If we are prepared to accept the Board's stance on these matters then it will be the same old sell/good bit of business mentality as usual no matter what affect it has on the fans or indeed team's morale
turfmanphil
Dear Phill if we bring in Haynes & another good striker @ the moment Austin is on song & hines will start to show us what he can do, If we get 5 - 6 million for Jay this would make sence. I have cached football & in my oppinion Jay is not our best striker if we get the money we then look @ centre half Shotton & Quality midfield man, a los of the clubs in the championship have bigger squads but if you look @ ours with a couple or three aditions we have more quality. just my opinion
Albmaleaf claret
Dear Phill if we bring in Haynes & another good striker @ the moment Austin is on song & hines will start to show us what he can do, If we get 5 - 6 million for Jay this would make sence. I have cached football & in my oppinion Jay is not our best striker if we get the money we then look @ centre half Shotton & Quality midfield man, a los of the clubs in the championship have bigger squads but if you look @ ours with a couple or three aditions we have more quality. just my opinion
Albmaleaf claret
There will always be a case for selling our best players financially no matter what affect it has on the team, good or bad because we are in a financial pickle and shouldn't be by now. Sadly because we cant get out of this financial rut that will always happen until there is a Board change and someone truly does believe it when they say 'We dont have to sell' Jay Rod is NOT FOR SALE..oh aye?
turfmanphil
There will always be a case for selling our best players financially no matter what affect it has on the team, good or bad because we are in a financial pickle and shouldn't be by now. Sadly because we cant get out of this financial rut that will always happen until there is a Board change and someone truly does believe it when they say 'We dont have to sell' Jay Rod is NOT FOR SALE..oh aye?
turfmanphil
The thing that sticks in my mind is why did Jrod only sign a two year contract is that all the Club offered him or is that the length Jrod wanted, and you are right phil end of this season only one year left. So why is BFC not in contact with Jrod and his agent now to talk about a long term deal or does the Club want to cash in or has Jrod's head been turned and he's looking for a big money move. Why do we need another striker when we all ready have five.
Fedupclaret
The thing that sticks in my mind is why did Jrod only sign a two year contract is that all the Club offered him or is that the length Jrod wanted, and you are right phil end of this season only one year left. So why is BFC not in contact with Jrod and his agent now to talk about a long term deal or does the Club want to cash in or has Jrod's head been turned and he's looking for a big money move. Why do we need another striker when we all ready have five.
Fedupclaret
Didn't EH say we were in the market for another forward due to Patto & Ings both injured. I'm not sure how reliable this one is but i read this on a rumor site. 'Southampton meanwhile are preparing a last ditch attempt to lure Jay Rodriguez away from Burnley with a deal worth 6.5m. 5.5m cash with a player rated at 1m heading to The Turf in return - thought to be either Jason Puncheon or Lee Barnard.' but i also read on there we are to hold out for a cash only deal.
ruane
Didn't EH say we were in the market for another forward due to Patto & Ings both injured. I'm not sure how reliable this one is but i read this on a rumor site. 'Southampton meanwhile are preparing a last ditch attempt to lure Jay Rodriguez away from Burnley with a deal worth 6.5m. 5.5m cash with a player rated at 1m heading to The Turf in return - thought to be either Jason Puncheon or Lee Barnard.' but i also read on there we are to hold out for a cash only deal.
ruane
We may as well get the pain over with now but only if someone has daft money to burn in the region of 8-10 million. Ipswich sold Conor Wickham for 8 million I think! What worries me though is that only a fraction of all these sales seem to go into bringing in replacements if you think back to Steven Fletcher etc. Either most of the money is going to keep the club afloat or money is being spent on lower league players to avoid breaking the salary cap. We seem scared of bringing in a high-profile player and that is gambling with our future in my opinion
turfmanphil
We may as well get the pain over with now but only if someone has daft money to burn in the region of 8-10 million. Ipswich sold Conor Wickham for 8 million I think! What worries me though is that only a fraction of all these sales seem to go into bringing in replacements if you think back to Steven Fletcher etc. Either most of the money is going to keep the club afloat or money is being spent on lower league players to avoid breaking the salary cap. We seem scared of bringing in a high-profile player and that is gambling with our future in my opinion
turfmanphil
It seems to me that 2 year contracts are worse than a waste of time unless the Board are willing to write off any transfer fee. 5 years is looking like the only sensible option. Perhaps the 2 years for Jay was because BFC were not sure of his potential, difficult to believe so was it Jay's choice, probably never know.
cornwallclaret
It seems to me that 2 year contracts are worse than a waste of time unless the Board are willing to write off any transfer fee. 5 years is looking like the only sensible option. Perhaps the 2 years for Jay was because BFC were not sure of his potential, difficult to believe so was it Jay's choice, probably never know.
cornwallclaret
Two year contracts are the norm in anything other than the Premier League and / or Championship clubs being bankrolled. In the lower leagues you are even looking at a lot of one-year deals (Iain Turner at Preston a recent example and he's the replacement for Lonergan). If people recall, Jay Rod's new deal took a long time to strike - no doubt because the agent was setting the bar high for him knowing that he is a Premier League player in waiting. He is now one of our best paid players but he and his agent will know that he's only a season away from the Premier - with or without Burnley. I think his agent would have strongly advised a short term deal, so the club would have less leverage to stand in his way should a top club come in for him. I don't think we should be selling anyone to clubs in our league but I would expect him to go in the summer to a top club and I agree that 8m should be a minimum ask at the end of the season (could be less due to him only having a year to run at he end of his contract). In the unlikely chance of Burnley going up, I think he'd possibly stay with us.
cubanclaret
Two year contracts are the norm in anything other than the Premier League and / or Championship clubs being bankrolled. In the lower leagues you are even looking at a lot of one-year deals (Iain Turner at Preston a recent example and he's the replacement for Lonergan). If people recall, Jay Rod's new deal took a long time to strike - no doubt because the agent was setting the bar high for him knowing that he is a Premier League player in waiting. He is now one of our best paid players but he and his agent will know that he's only a season away from the Premier - with or without Burnley. I think his agent would have strongly advised a short term deal, so the club would have less leverage to stand in his way should a top club come in for him. I don't think we should be selling anyone to clubs in our league but I would expect him to go in the summer to a top club and I agree that 8m should be a minimum ask at the end of the season (could be less due to him only having a year to run at he end of his contract). In the unlikely chance of Burnley going up, I think he'd possibly stay with us.
cubanclaret
I think I'd be tempted to take somewhere in the region of 6 million, plus a player, for JRod. It's not as though he cost us anything and I think we'll lose him sooner or later. Charlie Austin is doing the business and we have others waiting in the wings.
canadaclaret
I think I'd be tempted to take somewhere in the region of 6 million, plus a player, for JRod. It's not as though he cost us anything and I think we'll lose him sooner or later. Charlie Austin is doing the business and we have others waiting in the wings.
canadaclaret
Really hope he stays. We should not let him go for less than 6 million + add ons.
Grimsby Claret
Really hope he stays. We should not let him go for less than 6 million + add ons.
Grimsby Claret
So is this really the attitude we have ? Anybody can be sold if the price is right. We shouldnt be willing to dismantle our squad if we get a good enough offer. That is a losing mentality. Especially with so little time left to buy replacements. I think we have a good squad as it is, but that doesnt take away the fact that we lost the likes of Chris Eagles, Danny Fox and Jack Cork, who were massive players. Ive had enough of this boards losing mentality, where by if they get a decent offer for one of our best players they just grab the money expecting to find a reasonable replacement for less money. I dont think this transfer will happen, the board would have some nerve to let it. Who knows with this football club, anything could happen.
AdamBurnleyFan
So is this really the attitude we have ? Anybody can be sold if the price is right. We shouldnt be willing to dismantle our squad if we get a good enough offer. That is a losing mentality. Especially with so little time left to buy replacements. I think we have a good squad as it is, but that doesnt take away the fact that we lost the likes of Chris Eagles, Danny Fox and Jack Cork, who were massive players. Ive had enough of this boards losing mentality, where by if they get a decent offer for one of our best players they just grab the money expecting to find a reasonable replacement for less money. I dont think this transfer will happen, the board would have some nerve to let it. Who knows with this football club, anything could happen.
AdamBurnleyFan
Adam I am with you 100% mate but this is whyI am so frustrated with the Board as well as being sick of it after years of this happening! Boy though do I have to take some stick for having this view. I wouldn't mind losing all these players if they replaced 'em with players of equal quality who can hit the ground running and slot in immediately! Instead they either seem to keep most of the money back which disappears into a black hole or they bring in young, inexperienced unproven talent so the process starts all over again like a viscious circle. The typical end result is we stay in midtable. Iam continually told though we have to be happy with our lot because there is no financial alternative
turfmanphil
Adam I am with you 100% mate but this is whyI am so frustrated with the Board as well as being sick of it after years of this happening! Boy though do I have to take some stick for having this view. I wouldn't mind losing all these players if they replaced 'em with players of equal quality who can hit the ground running and slot in immediately! Instead they either seem to keep most of the money back which disappears into a black hole or they bring in young, inexperienced unproven talent so the process starts all over again like a viscious circle. The typical end result is we stay in midtable. Iam continually told though we have to be happy with our lot because there is no financial alternative
turfmanphil
Selling JayRod now would be a disaster imo. I can just about see the logic in the others who have already left and I can just about understand Wades problem BUT cut Jay in half and he is Claret and Blue. As such I would love him to go next summer to a top half of the PL club where I could support his career with some degree of empathy. Unless we get promoted this season Jay must surely will leave.
VinRogue
Selling JayRod now would be a disaster imo. I can just about see the logic in the others who have already left and I can just about understand Wades problem BUT cut Jay in half and he is Claret and Blue. As such I would love him to go next summer to a top half of the PL club where I could support his career with some degree of empathy. Unless we get promoted this season Jay must surely will leave.
VinRogue
I can't see him going anywhere, Burnley through and through but as you say VR, if we don't compete and at the very least come close this season, he may well be tempted next season. Which one of us would turn down doubling our monthly salary ?
WelshClaret
I can't see him going anywhere, Burnley through and through but as you say VR, if we don't compete and at the very least come close this season, he may well be tempted next season. Which one of us would turn down doubling our monthly salary ?
WelshClaret
... the club has not spent 1p on any player from this years proposed budget for Eddie if you work out the monies we received for Eagles & Mears then the fire sale of Danny fox, In fact a million for Treacy, buttons for the West Ham Boy, nothing for the loans wheres is the remaining 3.8M PLUS THE PROPOSED BUDGET FOR THIS YEAR?? Eddie said he has only 16 first team players left now, that a massive 11 players out, he has slashed the wages bill, what I'm completely struggling is why are we looking at bringing only 2 players in ?? I can't see Jay going for any money at all, the out pouring over danny fox nearly tipped them (Kilby and co ) over the edge, I could see Wade Elliott going for all the reasons mentioned above, for me we have to find urgent replacements for cork and fox (Treacy not as good as chris eagles but staring to look a good player for peanuts). On the whole the signings have been excellent up to now have to hand that to Howe, when he said he wouldn't bring any player unless they were better than he had, I'm presuming he isn't likly to replace eagles and cork with the *****y little budget. Any way on Saturday Howe commented there were no outgoings only incoming and he expected to bring in two players in, not clear about whether they would be loans or permanent deals. Of course if they are not permanent deals then my question remains the same "where's the transfer fund gone for this season and just where does our money keep vanishing too "
hollinsclaret
... the club has not spent 1p on any player from this years proposed budget for Eddie if you work out the monies we received for Eagles & Mears then the fire sale of Danny fox, In fact a million for Treacy, buttons for the West Ham Boy, nothing for the loans wheres is the remaining 3.8M PLUS THE PROPOSED BUDGET FOR THIS YEAR?? Eddie said he has only 16 first team players left now, that a massive 11 players out, he has slashed the wages bill, what I'm completely struggling is why are we looking at bringing only 2 players in ?? I can't see Jay going for any money at all, the out pouring over danny fox nearly tipped them (Kilby and co ) over the edge, I could see Wade Elliott going for all the reasons mentioned above, for me we have to find urgent replacements for cork and fox (Treacy not as good as chris eagles but staring to look a good player for peanuts). On the whole the signings have been excellent up to now have to hand that to Howe, when he said he wouldn't bring any player unless they were better than he had, I'm presuming he isn't likly to replace eagles and cork with the *****y little budget. Any way on Saturday Howe commented there were no outgoings only incoming and he expected to bring in two players in, not clear about whether they would be loans or permanent deals. Of course if they are not permanent deals then my question remains the same "where's the transfer fund gone for this season and just where does our money keep vanishing too "
hollinsclaret
4.8M incomings = 1,25M outgoings on transfers ???????? PLUS THIS YEARS TRANSFER FUND NOT USED
hollinsclaret
4.8M incomings = 1,25M outgoings on transfers ???????? PLUS THIS YEARS TRANSFER FUND NOT USED
hollinsclaret
Not sure how much the Leisure Centre will have cost, but the indoor 3G and refurbishment must be 1 million well spent. I am sure we can speculate until the cows come over Pendle, but I think EH will have been given a figure he could spend and imo as yet he has not spent it. I think we will have been offered players left right and chelski from agents desperate to get players into a club, but unless EH gives BF the green light it just is not going to happen. So in EH I trust....at the moment lol as all things in football are flexible!
VinRogue
Not sure how much the Leisure Centre will have cost, but the indoor 3G and refurbishment must be 1 million well spent. I am sure we can speculate until the cows come over Pendle, but I think EH will have been given a figure he could spend and imo as yet he has not spent it. I think we will have been offered players left right and chelski from agents desperate to get players into a club, but unless EH gives BF the green light it just is not going to happen. So in EH I trust....at the moment lol as all things in football are flexible!
VinRogue
Hollins you seem to have missed out up to a million for Ings.
8clarets8
Hollins you seem to have missed out up to a million for Ings.
8clarets8
At the moment I am more worried about losing players than anticipating new signings. Roll on the end of the window then we can relax a bit until the next tranfer window. In my imagination we will then be strong enough to only sell the players WE WANT TO.
cornwallclaret
At the moment I am more worried about losing players than anticipating new signings. Roll on the end of the window then we can relax a bit until the next tranfer window. In my imagination we will then be strong enough to only sell the players WE WANT TO.
cornwallclaret
Oh God can't bear all this and thought of losing Jay sends a shiver down my back, as Vin has said you cut Jay open and he is Claret and Blue. If they allow Jay to go for any sort of money they are barmy, well we know they are barmy down there, but they will really have lost the plot if they let Jay Rod go
sheclaret
Oh God can't bear all this and thought of losing Jay sends a shiver down my back, as Vin has said you cut Jay open and he is Claret and Blue. If they allow Jay to go for any sort of money they are barmy, well we know they are barmy down there, but they will really have lost the plot if they let Jay Rod go
sheclaret
Did I dream that BK once said 'We don't have to sell players' now? Well if I did I hope it doesn't become a nightmare! At what point do you say enough is enough, does it all have to be about money, good business yadda,yadda? Don't the fans deserve to see a team that can compete at this level and have a more than average chance of promotion after a season in the top flight? Isn't that why we fork out good money? Really,really fed up of having to accept second best all the time. Surely,surely we have to keep Jay Rod at any price. We couldn't even get a replacement in time now, well not one of comparable quality
turfmanphil
Did I dream that BK once said 'We don't have to sell players' now? Well if I did I hope it doesn't become a nightmare! At what point do you say enough is enough, does it all have to be about money, good business yadda,yadda? Don't the fans deserve to see a team that can compete at this level and have a more than average chance of promotion after a season in the top flight? Isn't that why we fork out good money? Really,really fed up of having to accept second best all the time. Surely,surely we have to keep Jay Rod at any price. We couldn't even get a replacement in time now, well not one of comparable quality
turfmanphil
 

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