Rumour Mill-Saints Preserve Us £4m for Jay&Danny?

I have long been searching for the most suitable tag to use in ripostes to the tmp's friendly ribbing with term 'happy clapper'. After this outbreak of manic panic, my search is over. :-) Nothing to add beyond what I posted on this in the rumour mill forum earlier this morning.

Hi Dred, first of all welcome to VB. You will appreciate whilst I totally agree with your comments it's a difficult one for me as far as the Trust are concerned since we are trying to represent all fans and not all fans want changes at Board level and/or a different strategy. I should also point out that all the comments I make on VB are my own and not those necessarily of the Trust (as the riders on this site spell out) I am though raising these issues with my Trust colleagues in relation to some of the concerns regarding those fans who are not at all happy with the club's current stance and I will continue to do so

It's one thing to have clubs making offers, and another to actually sell. Mears and Eagles wanted to go, and they made this clear at the start of last season, so what's the point of keeping them. Take your point about pushing the boat out for Cork tmp, but then how do the other players feel about that? But as far as selling J Rod is concerned, I hope the club make it clear that he's going nowhere, and the same with Fox as well. If we do end up selling, then as you say above, things are worse than we thought at the club.

Cornwall has it right regarding the gate although Watford did only bring their usual two mini-buses!!This is what worries me, with revenue going to be key to our salary cap limits in the next year or so, we have to start entertaining with a high quality team that is good enough for promotion otherwise the gates will fall even more! We are falling short by miles at the moment,which is to be expected after losing three key players of the calibre of Cork,Eagles & Mears! But then it was all good business.Yeah right

A? A what? lol

Just the one coach Phil of Watford fans Phil but the did clap jimmy Mac so well done to them for that. I suggest anyone who has not read the programme about Jack Cork would have had to have been paid double the rest of the players wages to read and understand how that could have caused discontent in the changing rooms. Though we miss him we could not given in to such wage demands.

Long post this one ... suggest you get a brew before embarking on it .....!!!! So as many of you know I have been very vocal in remonstrating about the board, our monies and moreover our current business strategy in the past few months . However, I do think we need to be considered in our approach now the season has started, the last thing we want to do is derail any possible chances of promotion from our own terraces. So let's for a moment have a look at some of the positives over the last few months of pre season. I think we are all agreed we were carrying passengers in terms of players last season. So I have to say the job of clearing out from EH and JT has been very strong, they have impressed me with their character, they have grown a pair and cleared out our old guard, now lets face it that takes strength of character and a belief in your own conviction, so for that I am happy to go with the flow they have impressed me. With regards Mears and Eagles and with hindsight IF the issue was about them wanting to leave and NOT wanting to play for Burnley as articulated by our chairman then that does changes things for me and I think this is why the out cry has been tempered, we probably had little choice but to sell, my only issue is we took the first offer and that was poor business either way we were probably right to sell, not because of the monies but because we don't what a couple of players upsetting the rest because they felt robbed that we stole the chance for them to play at a higher lever. no one ewants rotten apples in a barrel. On another positive ALL three new recruits are EXCELLENT yes EXCELLENT ! and further to this Eddie has already articulated that he knows he need a replacement for Jack and at least one striker so is he wrong ..... no that's exactly what he needs, is it his fault that we cant bring players in? well I don't think it is...... listen to the interviews of the three new boys ALL have said they came because Eddie impressed them, and don't forget lots of managers are unhappy about the speed in which players and agent are moving, look at Steve McLaren he's going nuts because it's taking an age to get bodies in so we have to conclude we are not the only ones in the vortex of the waiting game. Eddie is absolutely right he needs bodies and he knows where they are needed, so I am comfit-able on that score, actually I will rephrase that, I am not comfit-able but I accept at this stage, as it is proving difficult for most clubs to get player in, fact is there are three weeks of this stupid transfer window ( why it dosn't close on day one of the start of the season god only knows) we all know what will happen in the last week of the window agents will bob it, concluding that something rather than nothing is better for them and their player, and we will enter the fire sale season with a multitude of players coming in and leaving. Final bit on Jay, Foxi and Patto...... Patto should have gone last week we missed out boat on that one, now he's injured he's probably worth about three bob.... something some of you will remember me articulating last week. With regard Jay and Foxi well I just don't know, we have little cover for strikers at the moment, in fact you could say we have a bit of a crisis, Patto injured and Charlie looking a million miles off the level he needs to be at so would we really off load them? Jay being put on a pedestal of being a product of our youth policy etc, alo Jay and Foxi are different this is a Championship club bidding not a Prem club so you couldn't really see Jay wanting to swap one for another when he could be playing at a higher level anyway in a few years. I think as fans we need to show a bit of resolve and put some faith in Eddie and the board, let's judge them ONLY when the transfer window has closed and we then get a real picture of what ambition the club shows, for example if we signed Vlad Weiss next week and a striker for £4M what would we be thinking then?... so come on let's give it a go cut them some slack and support them over the next few weeks...... you know what.... I have faith that we will do the right thing, I don't think Jay and Foxi will leave and I do think we will bring some real quality in and we will be better for it !

Christ I am starting to sound like couch .... Phil help lol !

What the hell is 'roflamo' tmp?

Sorry, but if I was any one of maybe ten of our current first team and the gaffer or chairman came in and told me I wasn't half as good as Jack Cork, I'd have probably yelled abuse at him and once I'd calmed down a little got my phone out and told my agent I was going to activate the plans I'd told him were stupid last week to force the club into selling me. Then go and Twitter and let rip.

On Saints bid-'I don't know anything about it,” said Howe. Of the speculation, he added: “It's not ideal.” CP Watford gate last season at Turf was 14,160

Thanks. But can you now remind me what the gate was on Saturday? I've forgotten! I'd guess Forest brought 2-3,000 last year. When Howe says things like 'it's not ideal' I get the impression that it's just a typically low key response on a matter he's not given any serious thought to after being pressed for a comment by a journalist.