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Rumour Mill- 'Laws Out' and About!

Brian Laws attended a board meeting at Turf Moor last night according to media reports; a meeting that may well have decided his fate.

The Sun yesterday also suggested that Laws could be replaced by former Norwich gaffer, Nigel Worthington, the current manager of Northern Ireland. His contract with the Irish Football Association runs out in 2010.

The Daily Telegraph also reports today that there is a split in the Board with some of the directors keen to look at alternative managers. Leicester's Nigel Pearson and former Hull manager Phil Brown are understood to be on the shortlist.

Rumours abound that there is a clause in Brian Laws contract that he would face dismissal if the Clarets failed to hit a 29-point target. The club have certainly not denied the speculation but neither have they confirmed it.

The Clarets though finished on 30 points following the 4-2 victory against Spurs last Sunday in our last game of the season so the contract speculation may be a red herring anyway.

The victory at least ensured we finished above Hull on goal difference and in financial terms we now gain an extra 800,000 for finishing third from bottom, a factor which could be taken into account in Laws favour.

Despite finishing on a high there were still rumblings of discontent at the Spurs game from some of the Clarets fans. A few scattered 'Laws Out' banners could be seen around the ground and some Clarets applauded Spurs fans when they chanted 'You're getting sacked in the morning'

Some booing of Brian Laws could be heard at the end of the match despite the win and there was even verbal discontent during the traditional end of season lap of honour

Whilst I don't condone these actions and never will I am sure the strength of feeling was not lost on Barry Kilby and Brendan Flood. I could see both in the Directors box on Sunday sitting some distance apart and I would certainly have given a penny for their thoughts as the match unfolded.

The whole situation does beg the question whether the Board are on a hiding-to-nothing if they retain the services of Laws

You have to feel sorry for Brian Laws. He has never really been accepted by the Clarets faithful with the vast majority of fans seeing the appointment as underwhelming. You have to blame the Board for that and surely now they can see the folly of trying to justify his appointment on the basis of working with low budgets in the Championship when at the time we were plying our trade in the Premier League. His record in the Championship and in the lower leagues hardly stands out either with a win rate of only about 35% and of course he will now always carry the yoke around his neck with a heavy weight on one side saying 'Sheffield Wednesday Relegated 2009-10` and on the other side 'Burnley Relegated 2009-10`

There is almost an ironic danger that he could become Burnley's 'Gary Megson'. If that happens we would appear to have lost out twice to Bolton! First they sack Gary Megson and tempt Owen Coyle to the Reebok in January. That single fact alone broke the hearts and backs of everybody at the club including the players and if there is one single thing we can point to for our demise it has to be the departure of Coyle. Burnley though then made matters worse in my opinion by bringing in a low-key manager with no experience of the Premier League.

We needed a high-profile dynamic manager preferably someone with Premier League experience or at least someone with a pedigree of getting Championship sides promoted. The players could have looked up to someone like that and it might have made the loss of Coyle less painful.

I am afraid the appointment of Laws simply looked cheap and ambitionless and his only hope was to ensure our Premier League survival. He failed in that task only winning 3 games and drawing one from 18 league games.

The question is now can we afford to give him a chance in the Championship when his win rate is not that impressive. I like many others have said we should give him a chance at least until Christmas but the ones that say 'Laws Out` now do have a point. Can we risk spending money on players under Laws and then find ourselves struggling by Christmas? Can we afford to risk going on any bad run that would have an increasing number of fans baying for blood verbally at games? Thankfully that is not something I have to answer but it`s a question I am sure is at the back of most of the Director`s minds. What is clear is that we need a quick decision, hopefully this week. If the decision is made to sack Laws then we need to sort out a new manager quickly so we can rebuild the squad without losing out on potential targets once the transfer window opens.

This is almost getting as exciting as sorting out who will be Prime Minister or electing the Pope. They say there is no smoke without fire but what colour of smoke will eventually come out of the Turf Moor chimney?

Please note the Editorial comments and opinions on this site are the personal views of the Editor and should not be construed in anyway to be representative of those of other Clarets organisations of which he belongs eg Clarets Trust. This applies to both the front page articles and posts in any of the forums

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The Journalist

Writer: turfmanphil Mail feedback, articles or suggestions

Date:Tuesday May 11 2010

Time: 8:43AM

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Will he stay or will he go? What's your vote and why?
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11/05/2010 08:52:00

Not quite sure why you feel the need of late tmp to share your personal feelings on Vital Burnleys headlines? surely this could be done through comments? We are all aware of your opinions, some we may agree with some not but making comments through the headlines makes it sound like that it is everybody's opinion at VB and that is not the case.
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11/05/2010 09:18:00

I think everyone knows what I think, and just in case you don't I think BL needs to go however I do think that the win on Sunday may unfortunately have saved his bacon!! Oh how I wish it was August England will have brought the world cup home and we would at least know who our manager and team were.
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11/05/2010 09:31:00

Like I said yesterday I was in the directore box for the Spurs game with Kilby sat with his family on one side and Flood with other Directors on the other side of the box and the feeling I got was Kilby looked under pressure. Some of the comments made by Tmp are right, nobody blames Laws for whats gone on this season anybody in his position would jump at the chance of being a manager in the Prem whether he was good enough that was always going to be the question. I put the blame at Kilbys door and I said that with my first post on VB when Laws was appointed and Kilby should consider his future at the Club, well to say the least I got a good kicking from regulars on this site. As for giving Laws until Chrimbo to prove himself is totally wrong if you all have doubts now? then you all know he's the wrong man for the job, going off the end of Sundays game its clear the majority of the fans don't want him and so some of the directors. I know what some peeps on here are going to say lets give him a chance now we have a good transfer budget for this season, no one has a crystal ball and its a very big gamble giving Laws millions and not to succeed. We can all agree that most people on here are solid Clarets fans who support the Club whether it be good times or bad times, put a chimp in the dug out and thousands would watch the Clarets home and away.
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11/05/2010 10:08:00

Its called Editorial Comment 8c8 as the last paragraph explains. Pick up any nnewspaper and read the editors comments and opinions. Just the same on VB except in this case it stimulates debate and folk can question & challenge the statements directly
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11/05/2010 10:09:00

Really struggling to decide whether or not he will be potted. My gut says he will be given a vote of confidence. I said when he was appointed I would give him support at the start of the Championship season (should we be relegated) but as tmp said - I just hope this isn't to the long term detrement of the club. Incidently, I would much rather have Laws than Brown because he is a first class plonker.
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11/05/2010 10:12:00

Whatever is going on, it needs sorting quickly, one way or the other. And whatever is decided, the fans need to back the decision, otherwise we'll be shooting the club, the players and ourselves in the foot before the season even starts. I agree with Claude about Brown, I don't think I could listen to Sloop John B being murdered again.
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11/05/2010 10:30:00

Just been on Sky Sports Zola got the sack.
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11/05/2010 11:00:00

Fedup - I also believe that Laws was the wrong choice but ( if i am reading your post correctly) to suggest that Kilby considers his future for it seems incredibly harsh. I dont blame Laws for this position either - but still am not convinced he is the right man for the job and anything but a flying start will have our fans on his back straight away. I still believe we should cut our losses, release Laws and pay the compo that Donny want for SOD.
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11/05/2010 12:10:00

Do we think Sean O'Driscoll is still the best alternative? I guess it would be easier to resurrect talks on that one should we wish but what about the other links in the media? Worthington, Pearson and Brown? I'd be happy with any of those to be honest
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11/05/2010 12:24:00

I have it from good sources that: 1) It wasn't compensation which scuppered the appt of O'Driscoll - it was allegedly his over confidence/arrogance, which Kilby did not want to work with. 2) The Board were aware that OC wanted to go to a bigger club for some weeks, but were surprised/caught off guard when he took all the backroom staff with him. Laws was the best available who could start immediately and Flood already rated him highly (see his book) 3) Sousa is a firm target for the Board.
Eyresy's Left Peg
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11/05/2010 13:51:00

If your 3rd point is correct Eyresy, then we've got a winner coming. His failing this season was no finance available to buy much needed strikers. He'll have them here, but he'll sort the defence as well , while maintaining an entertaining attacking side. I'm already sick of all this rumour stuff, the sooner decisions are made the better.
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11/05/2010 14:11:00

Sousa? Where did that come from? Reading that ELP, just seems to emphasize to me the lack of ambition. Laws was the best available who could start immediately?! Hells bells, so what was all that bollox about low budget success in Championship all about? Give me managers with over confidence/arrogance anytime! They tend to win things!!
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11/05/2010 14:13:00

I've also got good reasons to believe it wasn't the compo over SOD that was the issue. It was simply that Laws put over a more persuasive case and he was better the devil the Board knew than the one they were unsure of. To me, what could save Brian is a statement of intent and proof that he is capable of keeping the best players at the club while attracting perhaps Cork for a season. That would give him the strong hand he wants. The news of Wade Elliott wanted by Bolton worries me. He was the one the Board targeted for us to build our promotion around when they gave him his big contract and if we were to let him go on the cheap I admit I would be seriously troubled about the direction the club is going. Letting Jordan leave is also troubling. He's a perfectly adequate Championship left-back, we need two of those.
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11/05/2010 14:28:00

I can't say i'm thrilled we're being linked with Worthington or Brown, or that Brown has support at board level, but i would welcome Sousa or Pearson with open arms and i'm going to throw another name into the hat....Tony Mowbray anyone? Also, can someone explain to me why Coppell took the Bristol City job? Have they come accross some money, as i'm assuming he would demand quite a bit?
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11/05/2010 16:18:00

Dale the comment about Kilby was the appointment of Laws and his lack of success in his previous jobs and the fact that the appointment to me shows that Kilby was happy for Burnley to be religated in stead of fighting to stay in the prem. Kilby and the Board have another chance to put a manager in place to get us back in the Prem, the fans showed there feeling about Laws after the Spurs game and I am led to believe that we have sold 13,000 season tickets now so lets have a statement from the club about the future. I would also like to know who is making the decisions on players being offered contracts and players leaving the Club because that seems to tell me that Laws is stopping.
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11/05/2010 16:41:00

One more thing can someone please explain to me the benifits of keeping Laws for him to sign X amount of players on three plus year contract only to be fired if we don't have a good start to the new season or fired at Christmas if we are in the bottom half of the table for a new manager to come in who will want to bring the players in he wants, will Kilby say to the new manager no more money for new players you will have to work with the present squad. Does not make sense to me?
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11/05/2010 17:12:00

I don't think I would want Worthington or Brown to be honest. If the board didn't like SOD'S over confidence do you think there going to get on with Brown!! I would be very very happy with Sousa but that will require Compensation to Swansea if they let him go. In relation to Laws if you read Kilbys comments in programme I think he is staying. The last part of his column was all about how Laws had a bad hand and he's doen really well etc etc.. Interestingly Flood didn't say anything and from his book you would think he was more pro Laws.
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11/05/2010 17:50:00


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