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Rumour Mill-Carlisle's Countdown to Bolton?

No doubt there will be many rumours about Owen Coyle's Bolton wanting to take our players in the summer especially if we are relegated which looks likely at the moment.

The latest speculation to surface today is in the Sun stating that our former gaffer wants to strengthen Bolton's back-four by bringing central defender, Clarke Carlisle to the Reebok.

The 30 year old, in the news recently due to his appearances on 'Countdown, is out of contract in the summer.

If we are in the Championship next season, then Carlisle could be just the sort of player we might want to hold onto but if Coyle wants him, he would probably find the lure of Premier League football under his former boss too much to turn down.


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Writer: turfmanphil Mail feedback, articles or suggestions

Date:Wednesday April 7 2010

Time: 2:08PM

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This is going to be an interesting close season, even if a bit frustrating with Coyle buzzing around. Just wish he would feck off to Celtic! Still even Bolton are not yet mathematically safe
turfmanphil
My instinct on this rumour, like a few of the others that have surfaced about Coyle wanting various of our players, is that it was started by Coyle to continue the destabilisation of Burnley that he started with his gung-ho approach to the summer transfer window and then kicked along with his betrayal. Now he's had a long look at the Reebok rubbish tip he's ended up in, even he has probably now realised that he's not going to escape relegation in the honourable way by winning matches. In which context, if the worst happens and we do lose to Hull on Saturday, it would at least increase the possibility of Bolton going down.
Couch Potato
Oh dear. I hope we don't get any Burnley players in the summer, seriously, not one of them is premier league quality (not even Eagles! When you think about it he is just good in comparison). This rumour won't be true, Carlisle is seriously poor and we have two excellent centre backs with two decent back ups. 6-1 at home doesn't really scream 'premier league defenders here' does it?
adambrabbin
Well Carlisle didn't play in the 6-1 but then afterall Coyle is not a Premier League manager, so expect a shedload of our players in the summer so you can prepare for the Championship either this season or next. So if Coyle signs Carlisle you are in a bit of a dilemma then? Just wait till Jensen ousts Jaaskelainen ! roflmao. To be honest you could have them all at the moment, I would drive them there myself on a bus and make sure Laws was the bus conductor!
turfmanphil
This kind of rumour mongering is innevitable, especially concerning Coyle. You'd think he'd be leaving well alone after the mess he caused , but no doubt he'll be seeing it as doing us a favour by providing the cash, without a second thought to the disruption and dismantling of the team. Hope is quite often divorced from reality, but my hope is still that Laws and the boys somehow miraculously pull this off, possibly in the last match to deal out some payback to Spurs. And if that's not enough, is it too much to ask that Bolton go on a loosing run? We could then make an offer or two to Mr Coyle , now that would be payback.
WelshClaret
Absolutely no chance that Coyle would come in for Carlisle. Big Clarke is a nice guy but isn't Premier League quality. Reckon he deserves a chance somewhere - perhaps another contract with us in the Championship - but he wouldn't get a game at Bolton.
RickersTwickers
I hope we keep hold of him: he will probably want to stay in the NW due to his family. A two year deal? If not, and he doesn't want to stay, thanks for Wembley and Bristol City, Clarke and off you go...
whentheballmoves
Coyle is going to be as popular as John Bond if he is not careful.
Grimsby Claret
1. Carlisle is not a premier league player, 2. Coyle won't want Carlisle (as pointed out by adambrabbin), 3. Carlisle can go for me, 4. Edgar needs to be given a chance, 5. We also have Caldwell, Duff, Cort and Long, anymore? There...5 reasons not to worry about this rumour if it is or is not true.
OooDavidEyres
To my mind without Carlisle we would never have got promotion, sadly I have to say he is not Premier standard, probably like most of the team that won promotion. We had to strengthen the team and I have often said what we needed most was a strong experienced central defender which we did not get. So, if we are relegated I will be sorry to se Carlisle go, but if he goes to Bolton it suggests to me that Susan is expecting to be relegated and if so his days are numbered.
cornwallclaret
Thinking on the same lines as me Grimsby, I mentioned something similar a few weeks ago!!
sheclaret
It will be a fascinating close season in many ways. 1) Who will join Coyle? Lazy journalism makes me think that we will hear of many players being linked with Bolton. I am not sure how many will join him. Fletcher and Mears excepted, I am not sure how many would be seen as 1st team players and as they are under contract I suspect we will demand significant fees for them. Any others moving to Horwich can surely be no more than bench warmers at best. 2) Who will BL want to keep? I would not want to even guess. 3) The experts always say that you can not judge a manager until he has built his own team. What will BL's look like? There is a real opportunity to build the team he wants. 4) Will Laws be even manager. The number of players out of contract provides any new manager with a chance to build a different team perhaps. The previous lose season was eagerly anticipated but the end product failed to inspire. This will be very intriguing.
teddyl
I agree RT, Carlisle is not Prem League Class, nice bloke but Championship standard only.
VinRogue
My problem is I don't think any of our players are really Premier League class and that's been the issue in the end that has bitten us in the bum! In the early part of the season, Coyle got enough of them motivated to 'punch above their weight' but maybe they have simply just gone too many rounds now
turfmanphil
Agree tmp and take it one step further at the start of the season they were playing what I decribe as Cup games one after another, Man U, Everton, Chelsea, Liverpool and then when we needed to consolidate, Coyle couldn't cut it with the players he had. Hence results from 18th Oct were just one win and then off to notloB. From the 18th Coyles players conceded at 2 goals a game home and away. We were needing to score 3 to look like winning! The writing was on the wall long before laws took over.
VinRogue
I think though up until Christmas we were still playing quite well at home and had that form continued into New Year under any manager we may well have survived. I thought the home draws against Villa, Fulham and Arsenal were hard earned and encouraging but it is the demise of 'Fortress Turf Moor' in 2010 that has done for us
turfmanphil
Half full or empty, I thought we were shocking at West Ham and yet got 3 back, shocking against Wolves away, poor to get beat by Pompey, poor to get beat at home by Wigan. We did try to attack and play good football but so too did West Brom the year before us. All was not rosey on the results front with Coyle imo.
VinRogue
Agree especially in terms of the away form. I suspect though that had Coyle not left, we would have just scraped through on our home form. Leaving like he did clearly knocked the stuffing out of some of the players and no manager would find it easy to get them motivated again although some might have stood a greater chance depending on their character and reputation.
turfmanphil
I'd be utterly flabbergasted. One of the main reasons Coyle moved on was to work with players of higher quality.
cubanclaret
Good debate.
Couch Potato
 

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