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The Guerrero Conundrum!

Brian Laws recently confirmed that 20 year old winger, Fernando Guerrero had no future with Burnley FC.

The Ecuador international was brought to Turf Moor by Owen Coyle last summer on loan from Independiente del Valle but this season has struggled to make any impact in the Clarets first team.

Guerrero was highly rated by Coyle and it had been hoped he would be good enough to sign permanently at the end of this season.

He managed just two starts this season and both of those were in the Carling Cup away to Hartlepool and Barnsley. Guerrero was though a regular on the bench until Laws arrived. In total he has been on the bench 20 times, making 7 appearances. Clarets fans have not had much chance to see him play though since all the appearances from the bench have been somewhat 'cameo' with under 20 minutes to play in all cases.

With the arrival of Brian Laws,apart from two unused substitute appearances against Manchester United and Reading, Guerrero has not been named in the eighteen since.

It is difficult to know how Laws could have made a decision to let him go based on performance alone since he had not seen him play in a first-team game and the situation also begs the question why the rush to get rid? Is there something else going on here?

The former Castilla player (Real Madrid Reserves)though is now looking for other opportunities in the Football League and the last rumour linked him with a loan move to Middlesbrough.

News broke over the weekend that Guerrero had taken a pay-off from Burnley FC and was quitting after being banned from training by Brian Laws. Those were the exact words used in the media.

The word 'banned' sounds rather strong and suggests some sort of fall out between the two. The whole situation is a little bit of a conundrum so with Clarke Carlisle's recent experience of these puzzles on Countdown maybe we should ask him?

Clarke can you make another word out of these letters 'fernandoguerrero? Tick,tick,tock, yazzagaboom (well how else do you make Countdown sound in words?)

Yes sure, Jeff, its Salomon Olembé

Olembé? So let's get this right. We have just got rid of a young talent who supposedly had a good future ahead of him and want to consider replacing him with a 29 year old journeyman who has been unable to settle at any club since leaving Marseilles in 2007?

Now that is a conundrum to me!

Guerrero was naive in certain respects but to some fans including myself he looked an exciting player;one whose talents could have been honed for the future.

Why then get shut of a good prospect and think about bringing in someone getting on a bit and not exactly setting the world of football alight?

Yeah OK we were at least going to give Olembé a trial and that took place in the Reserves match against a Manchester City second-string at Turf Moor in midweek.

We got thumped 4-1 by a bunch of kids despite the Clarets side being comprised of players from the first team squad. It was not a great spectacle and Olembé made no impression whatsoever and was taken off at half-time!

That looks like the end of Olembé as far as the Clarets are concerned but surely Guerrero would have been both a better and cheaper option up to the end of the season?

I am struggling to sort out the rationale here....Tick,tick,tock, yazzagaboom !


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Writer: turfmanphil Mail feedback, articles or suggestions

Date:Thursday March 4 2010

Time: 9:58AM

Your Comments

I am getting a little bit angry in all honesty, WTF is going on?
turfmanphil
I have just had the most awful thought of all............... is Brian Laws the new John Bond.
sheclaret
I suppose in one respect that isn't the case. If I remember back then Bond brought in a load of players from his former club, Man City and we certainly have not seen an influx of players arrive from Sheffield Wednesday,not yet anyway! I know what you mean though
turfmanphil
He also rather curiously sold Brian Laws along with players such as Trevor Steven and Lee Dixon! Ouch!!
turfmanphil
Suggest we wait and see where Fernando ends up and what he accomplishes there. He may be a decent Championship-level player in a team that doesn't need him to contribute much other than in attack, and who is shorter than we are in attacking flair. How much would we have been asked to pay for him if we'd kept him on past this season. Two million was it?
Couch Potato
Coyle publicly said I think that he would be willing to pay up to £2,000,000 to get his man if he impresses during the trial, that then turned into a loan with a suggestion that Burnley will have the opportunity to purchase Guerrero if he is successful at the club for a reported fee of 2 million euros
turfmanphil
I'm not worrying about Guerrero, the thing that worries me is if the poll is right and burnley and pompey and 1 other go down who will be staying and who will going. If Burnley still see laws to lead the club in the future at the end of the season thats when we need to get things right.
Fedupclaret
That is part of the dilemma. if we go down are we saying that Guerrero could not even have done a job for us at that level? Mears, Eagles, Fletcher and Elliott will surely be off and I cant see many of the 11 out of contract in the summer staying either. We have a major rebuilding exercise on our hands led by a manager who has hardly set the world alight in the Championship. Let's hope we stay up, the alternative does not bear thinking about in my opinion
turfmanphil
Not so sure Elliott will be off Phil - By most accounts, including my own, Wade has been off form for a considerable portion of the season. Is it just that he is not quite a premiership player - I am not sure?
Claretdale
I keep including Elliott on the premise he was interesting top clubs last summer but you are right he has hardly enhanced his reputation this season and those same clubs might now be wary! Dunno
turfmanphil
Wado's Mum told me at Ars last year that he wants to finish his career at Burnley. What's 2 million Euros these days - £1.7 million? I haven't looked up the exchange rate for ages, but I don't think Fernando's worth that.
Couch Potato
What I dont understand is how a few cameo appearances off the bench can possibly decide his future at the club unless the manager(s) & backroom staff know something we dont! It's like saying go on lad you have 20 minutes to work miracles and earn a contract. Hardly fair on the lad? I will watch his career develop with interest now
turfmanphil
I agree with your sentiments Phil, as I've indicated in previous posts. I just can't see any logic to the decision and I'm really disappointed at what's happened, especially as Olembe (not in the same league as FG with regard to pacde or skill) was given a trial after FG left. I really do think there must have been another reason for the decision other than a footballing one. He was excellent in all games he started - reserve matches, friendlies and Carling Cup. I hope it wasn't down to language issues. I felt so strongly I even offered my services (Spanish translator and English teacher) but no reply - although I must admit that was a bit crazy. The timing seemed all wrong too - can't see any benefit in letting him go this late in the season when he could have been the one to provide that something different we've been missing (no substitute for pace either). I also don't understand why Eagles was left out for a game when we should have been looking to get at the opposition as much as possible. On a brighter note its good to see Pato back and playing well - we've missed him.
swalesclaret
It does seem strange that Guerrero has left us as the little I have seen of him live suggests he could be a real prospect. Though Laws won't have seen him play much in a match situation either he will have seen him round the club and behind the scenes in training and preparation. I don't known the truth but it sounds like Laws and his staff - and perhaps even some of the senior players - weren't convinced that Guerrero was right in terms of his attitude and professionalism. Difficult for the young lad, miles away from home and not playing but football is about more than raw ability.
RickersTwickers
Going down strong, if indeed that is how it works out, doesn't necessarily mean we will be forced to sell our best players. If West Brom are the example to follow, they've managed to keep the likes of Chris Brunt, Robert Koren and Roman Bednar...indeed they have spent three times more (£4.5m) than they have brought in (£1.5m). I'd expect a season in the Championship would be good for Steven Fletcher, Chris McCann would unlikely have many suitors after his injury strewn campaign, Chris Eagles might move on but I wouldn't bet on anyone else.
cubanclaret
I think there's more to this than meets the eye TMP. You don't get 'banned' from training if it's a normal situation. The squad has got where it is largely from the togetherness and team spirit and I would guess that he has done something to fracture that. I can't understand how some posts say that we are rubbish and then the next minute half the team will leave for other Prem clubs if we go down. Elliott will be 31 at the end of the season and has been no more than okay, lately not even that, so who is going to snap him up? Eagles came to us when we were in the Championship and again has been okay in the Prem but no more. He is a bit lightweight and easily shoved off the ball. He might get a chance with another Prem club but it would be someone at the bottom. Fletcher and Mears are the only ones that would probably go and the former will have to stop missing open goals for that to happen! But they might go anyway if we stay up - you are always likely to lose your best players to other clubs anyway. Every season is a constant merry-go-round of players. If you look at the programmes over the last seasons there are few players who last longer than two or three seasons.
ozjean
I guess once more this all about chances and there are more chances we will lose our players if we are relegated. If we stay up and Bolton stay up, Coyle could come a kocking and some will want to play for him ;even more so if he comes a knocking and we are down in the Championship. The Championship is getting more and more difficult to get out of and we would have to try with I believe virtually a new team. Even if most of them stay and we go up, we know most of them are not Premier League standard so the yo-yoing will start again unless we are prepared to spend money on players who are both good enough to get us up and good enough to keep us up. I hope we don't have to worry about all this happening and we simply stay up this season,I really do. Going down would be a lottery and there is too much complaceny around the place about the idea
turfmanphil
A bland statement on Guerrero's departure is now confirmed on Official Site. He has gone back to Ecuador. Well that was a bloody waste of time then
turfmanphil
A waste of time and money by all accounts but at least I got to see him score a goal for us, fond fair-well Fernando Alexander Guerrero Vásquez
8clarets8
I was really excited by this prospect! It seems that the really exciting players if they don't do it often enough get the push. I always thought Valois and Paul McVeigh (loan we could have bought) were in that situation but we let them both go
turfmanphil
 

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