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Tuesday Managerial Turfection-Week 2

Keep coming back to this article today. As news breaks on our managerial targets in the media, Vital Burnley will update you and bring you the latest gossip and rumours.

A lot of our rumoured targets and their current clubs were in denial yesterday making statements that they were happy where they were and had not been approached by Burnley FC.

Most of these were from the lower leagues, typically from the Championship or League 1 and you would be forgiven for singing 'No one likes us, We dont care'. You have to take their statements with a pinch of salt though as they play out their media club rituals and pretence of loyalty. No ambitious manager worth his salt would surely not be tempted to move up a league or two to manage a Premier League side.

Nevertheless here is what some of them said:

Lee Clark

The current Huddersfield Town manager was a bookies joint favourite at one point with the Lancashire Telegraph saying he had already had an interview at Turf Moor.

The Terriers though have denied any approach by Burnley FC to speak to Clark.

Clark himself said:

'I can`t really make any comment because there is nothing to comment on. I have had no contact with Burnley, and my focus is on preparing the side for Saturday`s game with Southend.'

Town chairman Dean Hoyle appeared to confirm those comments:

'Rumours are part and parcel of footbalI but I was very surprised when I heard this one. As far as I`m concerned, there is no truth in it and there hasn't been any approach from Burnley regarding Lee.'

Sean O'Driscoll

Doncaster Rovers boss Sean O'Driscoll is also reported to be a favourite for the Burnley managerial vacancy.

The Sun actually says the former Bournemouth gaffer is the favourite to become Burnley's new boss.

Doncaster though are rumoured to have told Burnley FC that they would want around £1million in compensation.

Rovers chairman John Ryan is quoted as saying:

'We don't want to lose Sean but should it happen we shall be seeking serious compensation. We've not been called 'the Arsenal of the Championship' for nothing. That's down to Sean.'

The Sun also believe O'Driscoll was interviewed by Barry Kilby and director Brendan Flood at the Worsley Marriott Hotel on Sunday.

On the other hand according to Sky Sports O'Driscoll is now believed to be in Lancashire holding talks with the Clarets, They also state that Burnley FC are confident of appointing him as manager.

Sky Sports News also understands that O'Driscoll is also planning to bring in his No.2 Richard O'Kelly who was taking training with Doncaster on Tuesday.

Simon Grayson

We have also been strongly linked with the Leeds manager but once again there were denials of any interest.

'I'd be flattered [if approached by Burnley] because everyone wants to manage in the Premier League,' said Grayson.

'But my ideal scenario is to manage Leeds United in the Premier League and I think over the next few years I think there is a real possibility of us achieving that.

'You can't stop speculation and you are flattered when you are linked with jobs in the Premier League.

'But it has to be the right circumstances and right the club to do that at.

'Leeds is a fantastic football club and I'm just focused on achieving my targets here and I'm committed to this job.'

Paul Jewell

Jewell was one of the few potential managers who did not rule out interest in the job.

However he seemed to rule himself out by saying the job would be too difficult to take on suggesting the Clarets will find it hard to stay in the Premier League this season.

The former Wigan and Derby manager who is currently out of a job said:

'Everyone hopes they do stay up, but I think they`re going to find it difficult. And if Burnley go down and don`t start off next season well, the inevitable is going to happen. That`s what happens in football.'

Another manager who hasn't denied any interest is currently the out of work former Owls boss, Brian Laws.

Brian Laws

According to the Daily Mail today, and this wont make happy reading for most Clarets fans. Burnley are ready to spring a major surprise by naming Brian Laws as their new manager.

They believe quote: 'Laws and Doncaster boss Sean O`Driscoll were the last two men standing in the race for the job on Monday' The Sports Mail understand Laws is the preferred choice provided he ties up a compensation deal with Wednesday.

If true this would be seen as a dull and risky choice by most Clarets fans and the fear would be that he could become the new Megson should results start going badly.

The local Lancashire Telegraph also believe this to be the same two-horse race with Kilby and Flood more likely to opt for Laws rather than fork out compensation for O'Driscoll.

"Of course it would interest me," the 48-year-old Laws told the Lancashire Telegraph when asked about the Clarets' vacant managerial job.

"I have a great affinity with Burnley, but there's no more I can say on that."

Today though we have been linked with a new potential candidate, Watford's Malky McKay

Malky Mackay

Watford boss Malky Mackay is the latest to be linked with the manager's job at Burnley.

The Scottish Sun says Mackay is understood to be on the list of potential candidates to replace Owen Coyle.

The paper believes the 37 year old manager meets the profile that Barry Kilby is looking for which they sum up as young,dynamic and cash-conscious.

Mackay though is in is first full managerial role having only taken over in June 2009 following the departure of former Watford manager, Brendan Rodgers. His only other experience was when took over as caretaker manager at Watford in November 2008 following the departure of Aidy Boothroyd a spell which lasted just 5 games before the arrival of Rodgers.

He has though been successful as Watford manager, steadying the ship on a very limited budget. With the club in financial crisis and coming close to going bust at one stage, Mackay has been astute with his signings using little cash and using loans to his advantage. Watford are currently a midtable side within hear shot of the play-off positions.

Whether that would be enough to convince the likes of Kilby and Flood that he could make the step up to the Premier League and ensure the club survive in the top flight with just four months of the season left remains to be seen. The local Watford Observer though confirmed later today that Burnley had made no contact with the club.


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Writer: turfmanphil Mail feedback, articles or suggestions

Date:Tuesday January 12 2010

Time: 7:59AM

Your Comments

You can't help thinking Burnley FC are going to plump for an up-and-coming manager with unproven ability at this level. I just hope if they do they know what they are doing; it all seems a risky strategy to me and I would be much happier with a safe pair of hands
turfmanphil
me to Phil.
Grimsby Claret
They will plump for a manager that fits their often and consistently spoken strategies of giving their all to stay up, entertaining, and not betting the ranch on survival. Paul Jewell, meanwhile, still sounds badly traumatised from his time at Derby. If he keeps talking like that, he may never manage again. My new fantasy is that Steve Davis will be appointed this week having done a week's scouting at the Reebok, so as to ruthlessly expose their weaknesses and secure Bfc's first PL away win. (I think it may be too late for the nurse, VR.)
Couch Potato
I have decided to channel all my possitive thoughts into BFC and our new manager will be elevated to God, when we batter Bolton, beat B@st@rds and remain in the PL while Bolton are relegated, so bring him on!!!
sheclaret
Agree sheclaret, I think we should try on Vital to get behind the new man who ever he is, it would be easy to write negatives about any appointment, give me any of the names linked and I could write loads of negatives...too old, too young, not experienced, failed at, will not like the weather, wears a hat, drives an Astra, has a nurse, takes tablets, has no hair, short fat guy.....hang on am off topic...woops HELP>>>>NUR............se
VinRogue
I think your fantasy may be a bit to optimistic cp but if it makes you feel better I too will hope for the same thing. I'm convinced we don't even need to consider Jewell as his Sky Sports News appearance made clear to me he is not in the running nor is he interested. I think it is essential we get somebody who is really up for the job, and that may only come from a young manager who has never had a taste of premiership management. Or it may come from someone who has wrongfully been dismissed from another premier league club and is desperate to get back into management after an 18 month absence. But where would we find somebody like that?
ClaretClaude
If you need more cheering up, go to www.bbc sport and read the headline piece "Top-flight finances stun David Sullivan" and then move on to the one about Pompey. I am firmly behind Kilby in wanting to keep club finances secure. Meanwhile it occurs to me that the 'together' campaign is aimed as much at our squad as at us. How many are out of contract at the end of the season? XI? I believe they are all free to talk with other clubs in this window if we don't offer them a new contract. I'm together.
Couch Potato
Does anybody know who the eleven are? Are some of these not the likes of Adam Kay and Alex MacDonald, who incidentally was arrested at the weekend. Also what about the first year professionals; Wes Fletcher and co? Where they offered one year deals or two year? Also what future are they likely to have under a new regime?
ClaretClaude
I think it was inevitable that O'Driscoll would start to get linked with higher Division clubs. He's done an unbelieveable job at Donny, taking them into the Championship and managing to keep them there despite working on a shoestring. In 2009 only Sheffield United had a better points record than Rovers. I do think though that his philosophy of how he likes the game played would take a while and that might not be quick enough to keep Burnley in the Premiership this season. Also his biggest problem at Rovers last season was the pitch, because of all the other sports played on it, it was awful and Rovers had a better away record than home record. I don't know what yours is like this season but it usually looks awful by this time in the season. Rovers are rumoured to be wanting £1 million compo, I honestly can't see that, the way we do business you will probably get him for a pittance!
DonnyEd
Kalvenes, Duff, Blake, Jensen, Joey, Thommo are all in the XI I think. Maybe Jordan, Caldwell and Carlisle? What was MacDonald arrested for?
Couch Potato
The official wording was a public order offence. The wording in the Citizen was as follows, " He was arrested by police officers under section 5 of the Public Order Act and taken into custody before being issued with an £80 fixed penalty notice. Officers can arrest someone under the act if they are found using threatening, abusive or insulting words or behaviour, or disorderly behaviour, or if they display any writing, sign or other visible representation which is threatening, abusive or insulting. " It sounds like he got drunk and probably a bit too rowdy. How many of those players would be likely to get another team in the premiership? I think the ones we want will re-sign in due course. Not that money is everything but they aren't the sort of players we would be loosing millions on if they went for free.
ClaretClaude
True CC2. But some Championship teams would find them useful and, with everything else going on, we'd be thinnish on the ground for the rest of this season if we lost 4 or 5 of the wrong ones. So, while not top of our worry priorities, it will be needing time and attention from a currently stretched and under-staffed management team. In such a context, it adds to the reasons to start a campaign appealing for togetherness. Alexander's on a one-year contract too, I believe.
Couch Potato
Alexander is yeh, but he will never get anything else at this stage in his career. I think he may retire and assume a coaching role at the end of the season. His aim was always to play top flight football and now he has done it. I think he will be happy with his career and happy playing his last season in the top flight. I think the other players leaving will only be an issue if we get relegated because if we do not surely they would rather stay with us in the prem. As a result I think the new manager has ample time to negotiate before the end of the season. The bigger concern fro my point of view is players like Eagles and Mears requesting transfers.
ClaretClaude
Hi DonnyEd, most of your fans seem resigned to losing him and I suppose it would be a great move for him. Trouble is for me, he is not proven at this level and has just four months to secure our survival in the top flight. If we were at the beginning of the season, I would take the punt, risky to do that now IMO just two points off dropzone
turfmanphil
Out of contract players-Summer 2010 Both Robbie Blake and Stephen Jordan would love to commit themselves further to a club they have helped return to the top flight for the first time since 1976. The pair are out of contract in the summer – along with Steven Caldwell, Clarke Carlisle, Brian Jensen, Graham Alexander, Joey Gudjonsson, Steven Thompson, Michael Duff and Christian Kalvenes.
turfmanphil
Hi Turfman - I rhink he will need longer than the rest of this season to get the team playing his way and night might see you relegated. Do you want a short term fix? O'Driscoll would definitely be a better long term manager for you. He would also more than likely come back to Rovers to get players like Brian Stock as he likes familiar faces around the place.
DonnyEd
Rumour is there are 2 short listed Laws and O'Driscoll.
sheclaret
Sky Sports now seem to think its almost a done deal,DE. Just added to article above
turfmanphil
A few years ago, after we signed Elliott, Spicer and O'Connor from the Cherries, I went to a game at Dean Court. I told the people I was sitting next to that I was from Bfc, and they immediately panicked that we were going to take even more people from there, even their mascot!!! Are we now about to take their former gaffer?!*?!? As for all our soon-to-be out of contract players, they may not represent the top priorities for us fans; but the players will quite naturally be thinking about their own futures, and would be therefore quite likely be knocking on management doors, hoping for a chat. An appeal to togetherness may in part be an appeal to them to be keep the dream alive, and be patient.
Couch Potato
Rumour is as part of the calculations as to why Coyle thought he would leave Burnley in deep *****, was the fact he had not got the bottle to decide what he was going to do with ten players out of contract!
turfmanphil
Anybody mentioned George Graham yet?
quietman
Yep,you just did! :-)
turfmanphil
You know though having been somewhat dismissive of Laws it is true to say he did mastermind a double over us last season and his Owls team scored four goals against us twice! Maybe if he could instill our team with the magical knowhow, he might be able to convert Coyle's side into one that might win a game away! The other interesting one for me is Marcus Tudgay. Would he now ironically try and bring him to Turf Moor if he got the job?
turfmanphil
Not usually one for posting on other teams sites but I was shocked by the link with Brian Laws. He is a really nice guy and I'm sure the fans will warm to him but he's useless as a manager, unless in League 1. He inherited a good team when taking over from Sturrock at Wednesday, who should never have been sacked, and he did well when players had to be sold due to debt but the players he brought in were atrocious and it wasn't all about money. His tactics confused everyone and he then brought in loan players with what little money we had that he never even played. We got weaker under him every year and he has left us in the relegation zone after no win in 12 games and we didn't even score for 7. If he had stayed he wouldn't have kept us in the championship so I think it's unlikely he'll do too well in a scrap in the premiership. The games we played against you last year were probably our best performances of the season so don't be fooled. As for Tudgay, you got off lightly. One decent season and he's back to his usual style of contributing nothing other than the odd fancy flick here and there. I think most Wednesday fans would sell him for 50p, or nearest offer, if anyone showed any interest. Anyway, all the best and I hope you get the right man to keep you up.
baldowl
Thanks for your comments Baldowl. I personally think we can do better but if he does come we have to give him a chance and hope he can keep us up with what we have. Wont be much time for him to do much in transfer window anyway and money is tight
turfmanphil
Donny, you seem to think we play in a vastly different playing styles however I was under the impression we are both footballing sides. Just curious where you think the difference lies?
ClaretClaude
I do not dispute the way you play football but O'Driscoll seems to play a system with players floating in and out of different positions throughout the game. Only ones that don't seem to change are the keeper and centre backs. So it is probably a different style to yourselves. He took time to get going at Donny, something you haven't got with only four months of the season remaining.
DonnyEd
Fair enough. I will concede under Coyle players roles were quite strict. I do think we have players who can drop into and adapt to different positions but agreed it may take a little time to adapt.
ClaretClaude
Wingers were always being changed around in a match by Coyle and we would often move Elliott into centre midfield and change to 4-4-2 via extra striker coming on from bench. The back four though and Grezza in holding midfield seemed to be set in stone during a game unless injured/sending off. I think O'Driscoll will find a settled side not playing too differently to his own philosphy. He just has to continue with that in my opinion and maybe introduce one or two other ideas especially away from home. If we survive, that's when the experiments might start and he starts building his own team. If we go down we have a very capable Championship manager to try and get us back up,so maybe that is the thinking?
turfmanphil
If the shortlist is Laws and O'Driscoll I am worried! Are we really that uninviting not to tempt someone with more substance? I don't mean someone like Curbishley. Not even the West Ham fans wanted him - and used to play for them. Personally I feel that we need to go for possible future talent or someone with real desire for Burnley. I would like to see someone like Caldwell or Alexander in charge or an old boy like Flynn! Surely we will be a more tempting proposition if we stay up!
heathfieldclaret
No need to worry, remember where we were 12 months ago. Ask yourself did I relly think we would be 14th in the Prem League on January 11th 2010 one point behind you know who with a game in hand and the same goal difference? If you did then let me into your secret, if not then enjoy the rest of this season. My Bolton tickets came in the post today and alongside my Man U tickets they sit....am in vocal training much to the annoyance of the neighbours....I will support who ever it is in Claret and Blue...UTC
VinRogue
I had hoped HC we might have gone for Mike Phelan. He is a local boy and former player who you would think would be pretty loyal and quite a good manager. He must also have a wealth of knowledge and contacts working under Sir Alex at the moment and might have brokered some good deals/loans etc for us re United players! Doesn't look like he was ever in the frame though and does not appear to have been even interviewed despite being an early favourite
turfmanphil
Looks like just about everyone has been linked, interviewed or offered the job and I'm not sure we are any nearer now to knowing for certain who will be appointed as manager. Tonight's favourite appears to be Laws again but it could be someone else tomorrow. Come to think of it Couch Potato has been quiet today. Could his increasingly sagacious musings from Lyme Regis have finally put him in the frame ?
RickersTwickers
Well it looks like its either SoD or BL but I just wonder if that is some sort of smokescreen and they will unveil someone completely different tomorrow. I think we were all surprised when it was Cotterill and Coyle previously. They didn't seem to be on anybody's lists at the time
turfmanphil
 

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