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Is he G'Owen or not G'Owen?

Monday 4th January 2010

Following club confirmation that Owen Coyle has had talks with Phil Gartside about the managerial role at Bolton, the Official Site make the following statement at 10pm

'Senior Burnley Football Club officials have, on Monday evening, held detailed talks with first team manager Owen Coyle over his future at Turf Moor.

'As a result of these talks over Coyle's future with his current employers, both parties have decided to take a further 24 hours to digest the information shared before making any further announcement.

'There will be no further comment during this time from Burnley Football Club or Owen Coyle.'

Most Clarets fans judge this to mean that there might be a glimmer of hope that Coyle could be staying at Burnley.

Some sources in the media are also suggesting that Coyle's move to Bolton could be on the verge of falling through.

Wanderers chairman Phil Gartside, it is understood had hoped to announce Coyle as manager on Tuesday afternoon so that timing now certainly seems to be scuppered.

Sky Sports also hint that this delay could mean there may have been further developments following Coyle's discussion with Burnley's senior officials.

They state it was widely anticipated that Coyle would confirm his move to Bolton after talks with Barry Kilby.

Tuesday 5th January 2010

-The Daily Star believe that despite the hiccup and delay, Owen Coyle will still be announced as Bolton manager.

Under the headline 'Owen Coyle New Bolton Manager' they state that Coyle will become Bolton`s new manager today after a night of bickering over the amount of compensation Burnley will receive.

It is understood Burnley are demanding 3.6m with Bolton only willing to pay 1m. There is a compensation clause in Coyle's contract that mentions the 3.6 million figure but the Daily Star also say Burnley know that they will almost certainly have to accept a sum considerably lower than that.

If that is so why are we bothering writing contracts in the first place? They are simply a waste of space and it would be better to save the trees in South America. Even more angry now!

-The Daily Express take a different stance. They believe Barry Kilby and Brendan Flood have put forward a strong pitch, outlining increased transfer funds in a bid to buy his loyalty.

They do however also state that Coyle is understood to relish the challenge of returning to the club he played for in the mid-Nineties

-The 'Daily Telegraph' state that Bolton chairman Phil Gartside is still confident he has got his man. They go on to say that Bolton may represent a more stable base where Coyle can begin to fulfil his ambitions.

There is also a hint that the Clarets are already looking for a suitable replacement and they mention the current Swansea City manager, Paulo Sousa as one of the front-runners to replace Coyle should he leave.

-On the subject of suitable replacements for Coyle should he move to Bolton, the Daily Mail believes Manchester United assistant manager Mike Phelan is on the shortlist of candidates.They go on to say that Phelan is expected to go head-to-head with Sir Alex`s son Darren Ferguson and Peter Reid currently second in command at Stoke.

-Now for the big one from Coyle's chum Alan Nixon, who in the Mirror today is being totally derogatory towards the Clarets trying to make out we are the villains of the peace for trying to delay the inevitable in order to keep our best asset at Turf Moor or get proper compensation. It is clear Nixon thinks Coyle will be going to Bolton. Here are some of his dispicable comments from his article:

'Owen Coyle is ready to quit as Burnley boss - and become Bolton's new boss today - as a bitter row between the local rivals intensifies'

'Bolton will offer around 1 million for Coyle, the sum in his deal, while Burnley are hinting at looking for 3.6 million. Either way he will be with Bolton in the next 24 hours'

'The wrangle over the 'transfer fee' has put a dark cloud over the negotiations - along with a bizarre dispute about whether Coyle was allowed to speak to Bolton supremo Phil Gartside in the first place'

'Ambitious Coyle was totally convinced by Gartside that Bolton have more to offer in terms of a budget for the future - and that has been the key point behind the switch.'




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Writer: turfmanphil Mail feedback, articles or suggestions

Date:Tuesday January 5 2010

Time: 8:34AM

Your Comments

Please keep coming back to this article if you want to keep up to date on developments. It seems to be anybody's guess as to what the hell is g'owen on!!
turfmanphil
Morning all. Slept well hope everyone else did. Two things can happen today imo. OC "It was a wonderful offer to manage a football club that played a big part in my life some years ago, like the Celtic vacancy it tugged at my heart, I have had to talk with Bolton, Burnley and most importantly my family to make the choice about my future. I have decided to stay at Burnley Football Club and continue with the progress we are making at this great Football Club. Please respect it has been a difficult time for me but I have a game to prepare for this Saturday." Take two OC "Everything I said about loyalty and wanting players to want to play before counting the cash is out of the window boys. I played for Bolton years ago, Phil is a good mate and needs me, so my loyalty has now shifted as you can understand to Bolton especially as the Board at Burnley are sticking to our financial plan for this season and Phil says I can spend as much as I want. Excuse me I have a desk to pack up and a match to prepare for. Bye and thanks.
VinRogue
Nice one Vin can we still to take 1. Which ever it is we need know, especially if he is going lets get it over with, give us time to grieve.
sheclaret
Cheers sc. Just wrote one of them letters, it will be a grieving process if it is option two, I along with many like yourself bought into everything OC said, was proud to repeat it to anyone who would listen, for me he has the potential to be the next Harry Potts and only at the end of the day will we know if it is still a possibility.
VinRogue
The link you need above Phil is the one from today's Mirror although it may not be online. A disgraceful smear against our club by Nixon (aka Coyle?) suggesting there is a big fall out over compo and implying Burnley are at fault. Don't forget this is after Coyle agreed there will be no statement from him for 24 hrs and Nixon is his mate to such an extent he was in the royal box at Wembley. Coyle is gone, unless Nixon has started talking rubbish which is highly unlikely.
CrosspoolClarets
Looks like the papers have covered just about all of the scenarios that crossed my mind when I woke in the middle of the night, and then some. The chances of any of them having solid information (as opposed to taking their best guess, under pressure to meet deadlines... or just writing what they think most likely to keep them in their jobs) are slim. Not impossible, but slim. Is Nixon's record at getting the story right so good that we should believe him? It would be interesting to go back through some old issues and see how accurate or off the mark some of his predictions have been in the past.
Couch Potato
OK Crosspool its up online now so added to article and you are right it does not make comfortable reading. Full link: http://www.mirrorfootball.co.uk/news/Burnley-boss-Owen-Coyle-poised-to-quit-Clarets-for-Bolton-today-article278037.html
turfmanphil
What you have posted here from Nixon, tmp, sounds like Nixon wrote this article before the meeting between Coyle and Kilby had finished. There's nothing of substance there that wasn't being said before the meeting, for example in the LT about the difference at that time over the extent of compensation, which BFC have said has now been agreed. The intersting facts to find out now would be where Nixon was when the meeting finished and what time his paper went to press.
Couch Potato
I agree with CP on that. AN is doing my head in now - just stirring, IMO.
whentheballmoves
Fair point, CP although I suspect Owen Coyle may well have hinted to Nixon in strong terms what he was thinking hoping it might broker a better deal from Burnley FC. Who knows. I know this suspense is killing me and all attempts to focus on more important things today have gone out the window [Edited by turfmanphil]
turfmanphil
It's an age old truism that any of us need to be very, very careful about thinking that a journalist is our own or anyone else's friend. Some of them are lovely people, but they have jobs to do. What they call 'the public interest' will almost always come above their friendships; and some of them get away with all kinds of things behind the protection of 'keeping their sources confidential'. They play a crucial role in democracies, but...
Couch Potato
The trouble with the media these days is that they don't bring news they bring opinions and with 24/7 communication in the modern age, the messages they put across are almost subliminal and can bring down Governments, get ministers sacked and put the fear of god up everyone with their negativity and doom&gloom! You say 'Gordon Brown is crap' often enough and people will believe it without even questioning it or looking deeper to decide whether they believe it or not. Thankfully I am not a Sun reader either
turfmanphil
You are so right CP, I once did an interview on the radio about Englands chances in the World Cup, all was primed for me to go live, I was really keyed up for the chance to say I thought we had a chance and then the nice man who had been talking to me prior to going live asked the first question " English thugs abroad it is still the problem isn't it?" He was supposed to ask me about our football chances caught me off guard, however I am used to thinking on my feet so I quickly regained it, but have not trusted them since.
VinRogue
I hope the lads break down the Potters as comprehensively as we have taken apart journalists here! It's great that there are such strong leaders like Davies, Dobbo, Fletch, Caldwell and Grezza - plus many others - to keep their minds on the job in hand. In Brendan Flood's book he talks about how he always asks the manager whether someone they want to buy has had experience of being a captain. The benefit of this is that I think we have a strong-minded bunch, who will be fully focussed when the ball moves, no matter what.
Couch Potato
I think that we can all agree on one thing at least we love our football club and are all very passionate about it, we may only differ in opion but we are all claret and blue. I have said some stupid things like I would burn the shirt OC signed for my daughter. But I know what ever happens in the cold light of day I won't. I agree with everything people have written both good and bad about OC. I also don't think anyone has written anything to bad. So lets all keep enjoying reading each others posts and be proud to be a Claret.
crazyclaret
The crazy claret post is actually by me sheclaret, not having a good day his open letter to OC, he was logged in as me and now I was logged him as him for my post. Not having a good day hopefully it can only get better, maybe OC will stay!!
sheclaret
Never mind S Claret - have a bit of a lie down and, hopefully, C Claret will bring you a nice cup of tea ( or perhaps, something a little stronger, while we wait for updates from the Turf.
RickersTwickers
There was something a few months back on a beeb-blog about how visits to the doc have been down in Burnley in 2009, and it was all down to people feeling good about the club. Anyone want to place any bets for 2010?
Couch Potato
SSN just confirming that Coyle has re-affirmed his desire to leave Turf Moor. Re-affirmed to who ? we need to hear from the horse's mouth now.
RickersTwickers
There is so much we don't know it is so grim speculating. At what point did OC fall out of love with us? I will wait to hear his version as a man of integrity I am sure he will tell us the truth. Gutted.
VinRogue
Burnley F.C. have issued a statement saying that Coyle says he wants to leave the club, but the compensation needs to be sorted out. He has to go now in my view. Damn it. I thought he would stay the season at least, he's really gone down in my estimations. I'm hoping Burnley stay up and Bolton go down, serve them right. Question I want to ask is who do we go for? Coppell? Sousa? Davis? Freguson jr?
skutter169
Burnley F.C. have issued a statement saying that Coyle says he wants to leave the club, but the compensation needs to be sorted out. He has to go now in my view. Damn it. I thought he would stay the season at least, he's really gone down in my estimations. I'm hoping Burnley stay up and Bolton go down, serve them right. Question I want to ask is who do we go for? Coppell? Sousa? Davis? Freguson jr?
skutter169
Perhaps the Burnley fans can share their coach drivers next year when they both travel to championship teams. I'll Just luv it.
Ewoodrover
Yeah so would I since the third one down will be you!
turfmanphil
Damn it.. Coyle was a fine manager I thought!
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